The Infinite Weekend Podcast

#72 - Same Same, But Different

• Zach and Josh

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We explore the evolution of entertainment through the decades, from 90s nostalgia to the current streaming era, with candid detours into Hollywood twin movies and surprising AI research.

• In-depth discussion about why twin movies happen in Hollywood and which ones reign supreme 
• Nostalgic deep dive into Blockbuster experiences, VHS tapes, and rewinding etiquette
• Analysis of Marvel casting controversies including whether Robert Downey Jr should play Doctor Doom
• Comparison of theatrical experience versus streaming, and how mid-budget movies are disappearing from theaters
• Commentary on the importance of keeping entertainment franchises fresh rather than recasting iconic roles
• Humorous tangent about using AI to research strip clubs in a new city

If you have suggestions for topics or specific franchise breakdowns you'd like us to discuss, hit us up on our socials! We're also looking into potential collaborations with other podcasts, so stay tuned.


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Zach:

Hey, welcome to the Infinite Weekend Podcast, episode 72. I'm Zach. Josh is over here, say what's up. What's up? How's everybody enjoying the extra daylight? Daylight savings time is upon us.

Josh:

I like it a lot because I don't feel as when I leave work, I don't feel like I've been there for an entire 12 hours.

Zach:

Yeah, that's always. The benefit is when you get off work you feel like you have some extra daylight. I mean, it's supposed to be for farmers, but the kids hate it.

Josh:

Yeah, because I know, for on our side, like you know, she's like I want to go outside and play. I'm like you know it's almost like seven o'clock. Okay, Well it's still light out, like I know, it's shower time and it's almost coming on in here that part throws him off.

Zach:

It sucks well, steve doesn't complain, so no, I can see why he wouldn't um, actually it's probably better for him, because now he uh well, maybe not, he's a cat, so he fucking, he's a nocturnal creature.

Josh:

So I think I let him out when I get off work. I think they average like 12 or 14 hours of sleep a day. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.

Zach:

That's the reason I don't feel bad about leaving him here. You know, by himself all day doesn't have like a little another cat to play with or dog or a hassle? Yeah, because he probably just sleeps all day, which I know he does, because whenever I come into the house after work, it looks like he just woke up.

Josh:

He probably did. Yeah, thank God you're here.

Zach:

He's all like groggy and his fucking hair is matted up, but yeah, but yeah. The daylight saving how do you feel about daylight savings time? Before we get into anything else, I used to be like a it should stay like this all year long type yeah but I think it probably should be the other way.

Josh:

I mean, if I'm being 100, like totally honest, I haven't really gave a shit either way.

Zach:

I haven't really given.

Josh:

I haven't given a whole lot of thought I do like the fact that obviously it's lighter for longer.

Zach:

Yeah.

Josh:

But that's really the only as much thought. If I've given it, it's been like, oh okay, cool this time of year it's going to be lighter out, just so I can stay out longer on the weekends. We can be outside longer, sure, which is great, because getting dark at 445 it's terrible yeah, it does it feels.

Zach:

I feel like I'm dragged more yes, it does suck, but I think that it's. I've heard people all whenever daylight savings time was about to hit people on social media mostly X is kind of where I saw it, that's where I like the discussions and shit happens. You know, it's not Instagram, it's just horse. But standard time was what we were on, that's what it was. That's what it's always been for, until daylight savings time became a thing and it was for farmers.

Josh:

Okay.

Zach:

All right, so they have more daylight. Whatever have more daylight for some fucking reason. Who cares? It's like we're not in an agricultural society anymore. Anyway.

Josh:

I mean, I guess I could see that I've never looked up why, where it came from, it was for farmers.

Zach:

I guess they have more daylight to do whatever in the day, but it messes with people. There's so many accidents that happen. There's so many lost time at that happen. There's so many like lost time at work because people don't adjust the clocks and there's actually like a loss of money. You know nationally when every time we do the switch, which is twice a year, it actually fucks things up. I didn't know that. So it needs they obviously need to do away with it.

Josh:

It's silly, um are they talking about doing that? Yes, like national.

Zach:

Yes, like trump has actually talked about doing like in congress, I, I think, or different people have proposed different bills to do it and some states don't. They just say fuck it and they don't be a part of it. So it's just maybe a state by state thing, but I think you know the Congress, or Trump or somebody, was going to make it national. But, like the most, everybody thinks that we should stay on daylight savings time because the reason you're describing you have more time in the afternoon. It lights out longer.

Zach:

Sure.

Zach:

Right, but apparently it's better for us whenever we wake up. It affects our mood and our hormones and blah, blah, blah if we actually wake up with the sun coming up. Yeah, Because even when it's daylight savings time, if you're waking up at like 5 in the morning, it's still fucking dark.

Josh:

It is.

Zach:

Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 5, 6 am, it's dark, apparently. That's not good for our bodies and my thing is I think we should go back to standard time. Our bodies and my thing is, I think we should go back to standard time and everything will adjust to where we maybe go to work earlier. Everything kind of starts earlier, right, and then when you get off work you still have the same amount of daylight because you're not getting off at five, you're getting off at three or four yeah you know what I mean, um, and then we don't have to do this switch, we don't play this fucking game.

Zach:

And with the, you know electricity and lights and you know modern, you know conveniences, like we stay up till, you know way too late anyway yeah you know I mean, but uh, back then, before they had all these, you know, modern conveniences like electricity and light, and by candlelight when the sun goes down, like you're wrapping it up yeah, you came up with the sun you went to bed with.

Josh:

yeah, exactly, you know up. Yeah, you came up with the sun. You went to bed with it, yeah exactly you know what I'm saying.

Zach:

You go to bed, so, and then you know you wake up as the sun's waking up and coming up, waking up Like the fucking Teletubby baby sun thing. Wouldn't that be precious if it really was like that it's all giggling and smiling this precious little dude. If that actually happened, that'd be horrifying It'd be like.

Josh:

Well, it depends on what kind of baby it was A little red-headed baby or something might be scary.

Zach:

It'd be like the end of that movie Eternals. When Hirsham shows up, he's like a big celestial.

Josh:

Yeah, where the earth looks like a marble. Yeah right, that's exactly what it would be like. Fuck that, freak the fuck out. I think the baby would be scarier.

Zach:

Yes, exactly, at least. I could rationalize a godlike being like a celestial, like, oh well, that's clearly a. Did you watch Teletubbies as a kid? No, no, I don't think I I think. I was way too old whenever that came out. I'm not sure when did Teletubbies come out?

Josh:

I don't know, google it. Yeah, I tried to get. We tried to get Harper to watch the Big Comfy Couch.

Zach:

I went back and watched some 90s stuff.

Josh:

They just make fun of it now.

Zach:

They just talk shit about it. Final episode was 2001,.

Josh:

So, yeah, it was probably We'd seen it. We'd seen it a little bit, let's see. It's weird. There was all kinds of weird rumors about that. There was rumors that the purple one was a trans, and then there was all that the purple one was like a trans and then, like, there was all kinds of Teletubbies from 97 to 2001.

Josh:

Well, you were sending that thing where it was. The was it Poe who had that actor was a the one who was in the suit. There was something you sent us on Instagram a few weeks ago. Maybe Was a DJ, part-time or something. There was something about the particular actor who was one of the Teletubbies there, about the particular actor who was one of the Teletubbies. There was something that was brought up a few weeks ago that that particular person that was in the suit or whatever.

Zach:

He had another career while he was doing it.

Josh:

Yeah, there was something else that referenced, oh, by the way, this and this, but I don't remember. They were all porn actors. Well, they said that the purple one, and like the symbol, was queer on its head and shit oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, people will find anything? Oh yeah, and they had like a television set in their bellies. Oh yeah, yeah, that was a weird ass show, yeah, and they would actually tune it yeah you couldn't do it Right?

Zach:

Yeah, that was. I never got into that show.

Josh:

I think it was after my adolescence, so you know 97.

Zach:

Don't but Big Comfy. Couch, I think I did come. I was aware of Teletubbies when I was younger, but it just wasn't my jam. I guess Maybe by the time it came out in 97, I was already 10. Yeah, we did the Big Comfy.

Josh:

Couch.

Zach:

Big Comfy Couch, mostly because little clown chick was kind of cute. Yeah, she's a little thick.

Josh:

I watched it the other day. We put on because, um, I think it's to be one of those apps has all the like the nostalgia, a lot of the nostalgic tv shows. But we, uh, I turned it on and I was like harper, check this out. And she's like this is stupid, like oh, you're stupid. That's why I was like you're an idiot, but I started watching. I'm like I guess, I guess we were into this shit, but you watch it. It now. It's a little weird, it is super weird.

Zach:

Well, because we had like, but I was like we had nothing to like.

Josh:

It brings back memories and, of course, Kyle and her are both talking shit about the show the entire time. So I get pissed off, I turn it off. I'm like you, just don't understand the magic.

Zach:

Well see, that's the thing Like whenever you're 18 or younger, we'll say teenager, teenager or younger. If you're now 30, 40, 50, whatever and you go back and watch the stuff that you watched at that age, don't, don't. Yeah, because a lot of times don't. Some stuff you can, most cartoons you probably could, but other shows don't, because they just don't.

Josh:

There's one that does hold up pretty good, and it's Goosebumps. Yeah, that one's cool.

Zach:

Goosebumps is yeah, I guess that is also a live action too. That's pretty cool.

Josh:

I went back and watched five or six episodes and I was like this is alright, this is pretty cool.

Zach:

But yeah, I don't know, but I mean other shows I've been running forever, like Sesame Street's been fucking going on forever.

Josh:

I can't remember any of those episodes.

Zach:

Or Mr Rogers' Neighborhood. Never really got into that. We did watch that a lot. I was mostly actually, I think what kids show did I really watch? Of course, I was homeschooled. I lived in the boondocks and we didn't really. You know, I was also of an age and it wasn't readily available because I lived in the boonies. You know, there was no Cartoon Network, there was no Nick.

Josh:

Morton, you weren't really exposed to it.

Zach:

There were Saturday morning cartoons, and that was fucking it. Oh man, I had all of them.

Josh:

But I lived here in town actually.

Zach:

Yeah, Like less than a mile away, it wasn't until we moved here in like 99, when I was 12, when we actually could get that shit. Do, actually could get that shit. Do you watch? Don't be afraid of the dark, see it, listen, that's what I'm saying. If it wasn't, I think by the time uh, you know, I moved to a place and then it was also readily available. Uh, cartoon network, you know cable channels for cartoons. Um, I was already getting to the age to where I was not watching that stuff anymore.

Josh:

So can you go back and remember, probably like your first expo, like what movie? Like 90s, what movie stands out that you like can remember verbatim, like right now. If we're going to play on the heartstrings for throwbacks.

Zach:

Well, I mean we're jumping from, you know, saturday morning cartoons to like movies. I mean that's a different story because Cause I mean well, I'm just okay.

Josh:

90s in general the boonies.

Zach:

I just don't remember, like a kid's the earliest thing that I can recall watching, yeah yeah, tv or movie. Hmm, that's a good question. Um big, big power Rangers guy.

Josh:

Yep, right there with you.

Zach:

Of I mean probably if it was a Saturday morning cartoon, right yeah, it had to have been something like I'm old enough to where Looney Tunes was still on. Saturday morning cartoons Tom and Jerry. Tom and Jerry like that stuff. Also some old Hanna-Barbera stuff like Johnny Quest, oh yeah.

Josh:

You know what I mean.

Zach:

Yeah.

Zach:

Like that was, oh nice name.

Josh:

Oh, nice name.

Zach:

You know, I'm saying, it said that I would say maybe that is the earliest that I can recall is anything on saturday morning cartoons during the 90s dude, as soon as you just said that, my head just started spinning through toonami yeah, like space goes coast to coast johnny quest, like I'm starting to like yeah, all that I don't want to go like random and start throwing each other, but that's okay.

Josh:

Well see, that's what I'm saying.

Zach:

I didn't have that until I moved here, like I said, when I was 11 or 12.

Zach:

Yeah.

Zach:

So then I had Cartoon Network, which came with Toonami.

Zach:

Yep.

Zach:

And then Nickelodeon Channel and Disney Channel was a little bit later, but still all that stuff was coming out when I finally moved here, but I was already a teenager at that point, like all that stuff was coming out when I finally moved here but I was already, you know, teenager at that point, and so you know the stuff that I really wanted to watch, which you know, I guess I I wanted to to just watch the tsunami stuff, but it was only at Alan at night, yeah.

Josh:

I was on cart. Was it on Cartoon Network? And then after like nine or 10, like Like your Gundam and your Johnny Quest, and it was once a week- I think it was just one day a week, I don't think it was every day.

Zach:

I want to say it was maybe like Saturdays or Saturday nights or something like that.

Josh:

I think you're right, because Dragon Ball Z, that's where I was introduced to all that too.

Zach:

That's where most I think American kids got introduced to anime was Toonami.

Josh:

For me, the ones that stick out for those was never ending story. The second one movie wise yeah, because my mom had her.

Zach:

This movie is probably fucking. I mean, you know a disney movie yeah, my mom, my mom, lion king or some shit.

Josh:

My mom had a contact or a friend of hers that worked for the company that distributed the vhs tapes at the. This was like 95, 96. Uh, and she got a uh uncut copy of the never ending story too on VHS. So that was like our big kid movie that we'd watch nonstop. And then, of course, I just watched at the house of the day, uh with harp, uh, three ninjas.

Zach:

Oh yeah, I had three ninjas Dude. I haven't seen that movie in a long time and Three Ninjas Kick Back, which I actually like. That one too.

Josh:

And Three Ninjas Knuckle Up yes, so nice little sprinkle of information I found out.

Zach:

I never really watched the third one. That one was different because it changed.

Josh:

Yeah. So what's weird is Three Ninjas, Three Ninjas, Kick Back was the second one yeah, that's where they went to Japan.

Zach:

That's correct. I swing my butt.

Josh:

So what happened was, as I found out because you're like me, you have to look up useless information Three Ninjas Knuckle Up is actually the sequel, but what happened was apparently there was some legal rights, something to do with this. So Three Ninjas Kick Back is supposed to be the third one when they go to Japan, chronologically.

Zach:

Oh, okay.

Josh:

Three Ninjas. Knuckle Up actually has the same cast as the original Three Ninjas. Okay, because when you watch them in order, you're like well, why would they? Because I didn't know this until I looked it up. I told Harper, I said, hey, let's watch Knuckle Up. This is the last installment of Three Ninja movies, because she loves the other ones and do a second film and then all of a sudden the actors come back for the third. The guy who plays Colt is in all three of them. That's why Because it's actually Knuckle Up is actually the sequel- so if anybody wants to look up, that's weird.

Zach:

It's weird. Are they filming both at the same time?

Josh:

Something to do with either who owned the rights or something to do with distribution. It was something legal-wise.

Zach:

It was a distribution thing that they probably shot two, but then they couldn't release it.

Josh:

Yes, they shot them back to back. Apparently Somebody bought it or whatever. They shot, Knuckle Up and the sequel back to back.

Zach:

I guess they shot three and then they couldn't release three because maybe the distributor owned it or whatever?

Josh:

I don't know. Either way, it's fucking crazy. Long story short. That's one of my favorite 90s movies as well.

Zach:

I mean earliest movies. I'm going to say it has to be like a Disney movie, like Lion King or fucking Aladdin.

Josh:

Oh yeah, I've seen all.

Zach:

Yeah, of course, but if you want, to say like live action, like just I say because pretty much every kid that's probably the first thing that they've watched was a fucking Disney something. Oh, of course Right, at least during the 90s. I mean now you'd be different, because kids these days are watching shit on YouTube. But I would say, if you exclude Disney, probably Star Wars, yeah, probably New Hope. That's the reason why it's such a big part of my entertainment.

Josh:

Oh, we did the Dark Crystal. The Dark Crystal was the one we watched big time. Yeah, I didn't watch that one. I didn't really watch the Dark Crystal. The Dark Crystal was the one we watched big time. We watched that a lot. Yeah, I didn't watch that one.

Zach:

I didn't really watch the Dark Crystal. A lot of this stuff I watched later because I was aware of it and I never got around to watching it. When you're a kid, you watch whatever was available to you or your parents get.

Josh:

I think we had a lot more available than I thought we did, because I'm remembering a lot more available than I thought we did.

Zach:

Well, because I remember an old model, what Four years younger than me, or something like that I'll be 35 in May.

Josh:

You're yeah, yeah, that's right.

Zach:

Yeah, so like me that five, four years is a big difference.

Josh:

That's true.

Zach:

If you're you're talking about, you know, turning adolescent but you know, during that time.

Josh:

So like if I was, you know, 12 and you were fucking eight, it's a little different, yeah, well, I mean, oh, you've got a whole different spectrum of movies and stuff, right, yeah, that makes sense.

Zach:

So I never really think about that. And so whenever I was, you know, whenever I was that age to watch that kind of stuff, like I said, we didn't have this wide access. Yeah, whatever my parents allowed us to get, like we go to the blockbuster, you know, I remember blockbuster and also. Hollywood videos. There was Hollywood videos.

Josh:

I never did do a Hollywood.

Zach:

There was. There was both here in in.

Josh:

Oh, I remember where it was, I just never went. We went to blockbuster cause it was well, it's right over, it was right over here, right over there. But when I turned 18, that was the first thing I went and did was go get a bomb.

Zach:

Blockbuster card right, yeah, 100 and uh, yeah, you go there and you'd be like, just walk the aisles and be like you have to make sure, if you like, it'll be something you want to see and there was no tape behind it yes so we did.

Josh:

I was, I don't know but vhs yes, okay, all right, because if it wasn't there, you're like behind you, like fuck, yeah, it was, fuck it was just an empty box right. I miss Blockbuster.

Zach:

The cover box or whatever, the little sleeve, yeah, and so that's the only thing that was up there. And if you had to, there was, like, I think, they usually put like two or three behind it or something like that, and then if it got low they'd add it back, or something like that, or no, I think, or they would stack them on the sides along.

Josh:

No, I think you're right. The first time I think it was behind it.

Zach:

I thought it was behind it, but of course if they had like eight copies, it wasn't all behind the one box, I think. I think they had. I think the way it was is you had um. It was either on the bottom shelves or something they had overflow.

Josh:

Yeah, because I'm in my mind wouldn't look aesthetically nice.

Zach:

no, yeah, yeah, it was on the side but you're right, I think it was like a couple. There was something they would do, because I remember if you go up and ask like, well, we got three copies of it, they're all out on rent. Yes, okay, yeah, well, they also had the drawer behind the counter that they would pull.

Josh:

Yes, you know ones that were returned. Returned, yeah. Do you remember when they had to go, they had to, like, rewind them?

Zach:

oh yeah dude, we had a a rewinder. Yeah, because back then they used actually, if you didn't rewind them, they would charge you an extra 50 cents or buck or whatever.

Josh:

That part I don't remember.

Zach:

Yeah, so we got a rewinder because they would ask you to do that and that would save you a little bit of money from having to.

Josh:

So you remember when they switched to DVDs? Oh, yeah, yeah, dude.

Zach:

Okay, yeah, yeah I remember whenever there was VHS, and then I remember when there was a whole battle between Blu-ray and HD DVD. When DVDs came out, what was the big disc, the prerequisite for DVDs.

Josh:

What was that? We went from VHS and it was a big. Let me look it up. It was a big disc. I don't know we never got that.

Zach:

Hold on we went from VHS to DVD and then DVD was going to go, that was SD, and then to DVD, and then DVD was going to go, that was SD, and then, when they were going HD, it was Blu-ray and HD DVD, and Xbox Microsoft went HD DVD and PlayStation went Blu-ray right, and then it ended up Blu-ray ended up winning out over HD DVD, and I don't quite remember why. So it was VHS and Betamax Betamax, that was?

Josh:

was it laser disc never debated max or laser disc I saw a laser disc one time somebody had one and it was oh wait, no, I guess not. That was in 19, I wasn't around, I wasn't alive.

Zach:

Yeah, I mean there was when we had record players. There was, oh yeah, my dad had one he played every sunday morning.

Josh:

Must have been a beta max that I saw yeah, yeah, he played the fucking record player. What is a?

Zach:

Betamax, but yeah, so, like as far as early movies, like I said, probably Star Wars, like I said, you walk through the blockbuster and then you just try to find something like, oh, I want to see that, but then it didn't have any tapes behind it. You're like fuck. And so you just find the next best thing. Usually we got, you know, a couple of movies, cause we'd only go into town and like once a week or whatever, yeah, and then uh, uh, like I said, I lived in fucking boonies and uh, yeah, then we'd, we'd rent some shit and then bring it back. Or, you know, sometimes we'd go to the Walmart or whatever and buy some movies and I do remember was the it's one that we bought. And also, you remember, the Disney movies used to come in white plastic, fucking things.

Josh:

Yeah, because we had something that would hold four. Yes, you could hold.

Zach:

Yeah, we had them those things were terrible and they made so much fucking noise, but anyway was Titanic. The two box set.

Josh:

Yes, because it was too long to be on one tape Too long to be on one.

Zach:

it was too long to be on one tape Too long to be on one. It was a two-box VHS set and I wore the fuck out of tape two, I actually watched it two weeks ago.

Josh:

You know where they were fucking. Yeah, yeah, nice job. Yeah, I had some of those films. I had some VHS tapes that I had.

Zach:

Now I kind of remember I'm pretty sure it was the beginning of tape two or was it the tape towards the end of tape two. I'll say this tape two I actually did watch, probably more than than the first one, not because it because it had the titties in it, because I think titties actually were in the first one, in the first tape after was it, was it?

Josh:

that's after they had sex they went back to the room, I'm pretty sure I think that's what I'm saying.

Zach:

I think that I think that I'm trying to remember. We could always, we could just look this up, but I watched tape two because of the fucking disaster, like that's what I wanted to watch.

Josh:

Well, yeah, because that's when your climate, I mean that's when it all shit goes, hits the fan. Yes, your part one is just the build up.

Zach:

All right, we got to look this up. I got to figure this out. So let me ask you this Because I think that the tape two little Model T car or whatever. That's where they had sex.

Josh:

Yeah, hooking up.

Zach:

So the titties already happened before that.

Josh:

No, I thought they Look, I'm pretty sure that they had already hooked up and then went and did the painting, the whole thing.

Zach:

No, the painting thing I'm pretty sure happened before they fucked.

Josh:

Let's look it up, all right, I just watched Titanic a few weeks ago.

Zach:

All right, let's look Titanic. I'm gonna do live googling, did you have?

Josh:

did you have videotapes saved on certain spots for intimate scenes?

Zach:

don't fuck around oh, you mean like you like watch it. You can do the spot on the tape, yeah, oh, like the minutes or whatever, and you can like rewind back to that minute and then save it.

Josh:

So every time you, that's correct pop it in.

Zach:

I mean no, yeah me neither.

Josh:

There's one particular one, I think, with Kurt Douglas, and Demi Moore's older movie had a pretty good, pretty good one.

Zach:

Alright, titanic still holds up. I need to really ask AI.

Josh:

Google's gonna fuck me here Titanic holds up really well. Dude, I miss Blockbuster.

Zach:

Reddit should be able to help me out. Yeah, that was the fucking. The two box set right there, yeah.

Josh:

Do you know what else came in a two-box set? Huh, it, oh yeah, the 90s one, because it was actually a two-part. It was actually a television movie that then came out to VHS, and it was two tapes, excuse me.

Zach:

Reddit's going to fucking fail me here. All right, reddit's going to fucking fail me here, all right, we're going to start to being like an AI-driven show here, do it Actually, before we get into this? Well, after we get into this, I'm going to tell you what I was asking AI today. You'll appreciate it. All right, let's see what scene did it's?

Josh:

Rose and Jack, if you need the characters' names.

Zach:

Fox set tape one end, I don't know. I think that's good enough. Maybe I said Titans Titanic.

Josh:

You know there was another video store here in town besides Blockbuster and Hollywood Video on Madison Street, where Sports Clips is in that Verizon store. There's also a Mexican restaurant in there, at one time called Cancun.

Zach:

Were you here for that? Let's see Box set details.

Josh:

Are you trying to figure out which came first, the sex or the drawing?

Zach:

no, they just tell me, tell me about the fucking end or whatever. We just need a VCR, we just need to. I just need a VCR, we just need to. I just need to, like, order off eBay and just fucking watch this bitch. Yeah, either way, anyway, we'll figure it out. But yeah, I want to. I mean, just chronologically, I'm pretty sure that they they hooked up, they were in, they did the you know, paint me like one of your French girls scene and then they were running around and then they hooked up in the car and then they were in the car when the iceberg, when they hit the iceberg.

Josh:

Oh no, I don't think so. I don't think that's right.

Zach:

I don't remember. Anyway, yeah, are you sure? Wow, I mean just thinking story-wise. They hooked up and then she painted him or he painted her afterwards.

Josh:

Look man. That seems odd, I didn't make the rules.

Zach:

I didn't write the script. Yeah, all right, let me tell you what I was asking ai today. So, um, there's a potentially a guy's trip being planned. Oh lord, um right and the core four yeah and uh, we're working out the details and of course you know we're going to a particular city and of course the concept of strip clubs come up, mm-hmm, right.

Zach:

And so it's like you know, we have, you know, got to go see what the scene is like in this particular town. Of course, and you know we're, you know we do a quick little Google search, you know seeing like what's in the area, and so you got you know your list, and you know we do a quick little google search, you know seeing like what's in the area, and so you got you know your list and, uh, you know they got their little google ratings and little whatever and I was like I was like, I'm gonna do some research, fuck this, ai what you got.

Josh:

And so, like I asked ai a bunch of questions about some research about the the scene in that town about, about the yeah, like like uh quality. Can you say where you're going?

Zach:

price. I mean, I'm just being a big oh, okay, gotcha, gotcha okay um, lexington, um, but anyway, lexington, kentucky, uh, is where this will be okay, and so you know. I just asked ai, I was like you know what's the what's the scene like? Like uh how many clubs you know they got? There's ones to stay away from it had the answers, didn't it?

Zach:

It had all the answers.

Zach:

Of course it did, and also I was like all right, let's see how far I can push this AI to try to be like it went to them your best friend, like you're welcome. Well, like it as if this AI embodied a person and went to these places and then gave me, it's honest, like take right. And so I was asking you know, like, how chill are the clubs? Fuck, you know what I mean. Like it was asking, of course, you know how? You know what are the? What's the quality?

Josh:

of the talent.

Zach:

Yeah, dude you know also what do they let you get away with.

Zach:

You know also what do they let you get away with you know, stuff like that the important thing Like, and it was like going and finding like it was. It was pouring through like Yelp reviews and like Reddit forums and because it would tell you what it was it was doing. It was going through reviews and trying to compile a general consensus from all the people that have already been to these things and then had a voice, an opinion and made or put a review out there or whatever. And of course, you know there was a couple that when we were first going through it I haven't told the guys this yet and I guess they'll hear this on the on the on the pod when they listen to it. You're right, but uh, but they'll, uh, they'll, um, there's something to stay away from.

Zach:

There was some on the list that we were thinking of going to that I was like, oh, this is probably like one of the best ones, but I'm not gonna go to um. So ai has all those answers, even kind of disgusting ones. Yeah, so boom, right there they had sex before.

Josh:

You're right, I was wrong. Uh, yeah, so they have paint.

Zach:

He does the drawing yeah, it's like this literally and then they they yeah, then they run off and fuck in the fuck mobile.

Josh:

Yeah, had a great time, that's right, he just I mean, it's like this literally and then they yeah, and then they run off and fuck and they fuck.

Zach:

Mobile. Yeah, had a great time, that's right. He just I mean, it's like the like. Yeah, that was foreplay.

Josh:

She still looks Him.

Zach:

painting her was foreplay.

Josh:

She still looks amazing, by the way. Oh yeah, she's too old for him now because he go ahead. I'm sorry.

Zach:

Yeah, that's right.

Josh:

They were on the deck, they walked out, and that's when they saw the guy kicking the ice around, I'm like what happened? Okay, yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry. Yeah, so they see a nude scene and then they fuck in the thing Right, but.

Zach:

I see and I can't remember. I want to say that the first tape in the box set ended with them in the car. Yeah, probably so, with the hand fucking hits the steamy window. Story shifts, because the story shifted immediately after that and the whole second tape was the disaster. I think they intentionally split it up that way. So yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Josh:

I didn't want to segue, but I had to know.

Zach:

The last, however many minutes of that physical tape on that VHS got wore the fuck out on number one. The beginning of the tape never got watched. I don't even know how they got on the boat. I think they boarded it. I don't know when were they going to coming from.

Zach:

I have no fucking idea.

Josh:

They didn't make it.

Zach:

I don't even know, but yeah, and then the second tape. I watched a lot of is. Who Doesn't Love a Good Disaster movie? You know what I mean. Why is that? There's something about the human mind that loves to watch shit get fucked up.

Josh:

Do we get the reviews?

Zach:

I interrupted you on this AI thing about the fucking movie For the gentleman's clubs.

Josh:

Yeah, then we can get to disaster I just want to know what this is.

Zach:

I've asked this Titanic question on the tail end of my conversation here. What the fucking thing? Sorry.

Zach:

Sorry, listeners.

Zach:

Yeah, so, like, so, like here's like some. I just ask an open-ended question. I was like, what are the best gentlemen's clubs in Kentucky? And usually, whenever I ask something that says what's the best, it always gives me this preamble that says best is subjective. But if you're looking for these parameters, then here it gives you a whole breakdown and you want to just list them off.

Josh:

Yeah, absolutely, let's hear it.

Zach:

All right. So I just asked what the best available, best ones are, and they got Spearmint Rhino, which is a we've.

Josh:

I'm familiar with the Rhino, familiar with that one I'm familiar with that one.

Zach:

I didn't realize it was a chain, but I guess it is a chain. I didn't know you could franchise them. Yeah, I guess so.

Josh:

You should. There's a franchise opportunity. You should really. Yeah, I mean Tennessee sucks apparently they all have to have licenses. If you owned one, you'd probably make a fortune. I've seen you in the environment of that and you really shine, Do I? Yeah, you really do. It's like Willy Wonka. It's fucking cool.

Zach:

I don't know if I want to have that claim to fame.

Josh:

Yeah, but it's not the way you think, people.

Zach:

I don't want everybody to get misconstrued here.

Josh:

It's not though it. It's just kind of like I don't know.

Zach:

I turn into you. You have like a glow about you.

Zach:

I turn into you, I guess. Fuck, I don't know, I'll hype man super high energy.

Josh:

I've bragged about it to multiple people. Yeah, I was like, if you're going to ever go to one, take Zach with you. Yeah, I said because you won't have a bad time.

Zach:

Just do it. They're a delight to say Go ahead.

Josh:

Excuse me.

Zach:

You know, one day I'm going to have to put down such things, but now is not that time. Yeah, no, yeah. So Spearmint Rhino was kind of number one. Kind of listing them off based off of, I guess, reviews is what it's doing. And then Cowboys, showgirls, which is an I don't know if it's really like like a full strip bar thing I've only ever been to with you like just like a bar with dancers or something, but oh, you like pasties or something.

Zach:

Yeah, kind of like go-go dancers or something yeah, like I've been to nude bars before where you'd like the bartenders are wearing like little pasties, little go-go dancers, like dancing in the cave or whatever.

Josh:

That's fun.

Zach:

Cheetah's Cheetah, premier Gentleman's Club. Okay, that was number three. Deja Vu, that's also, and also I think Cheetah is also a franchise.

Josh:

Now I've heard the Deja Vu name before.

Zach:

Deja Vu. Well, there's one in Nashville. Oh, that's right. Okay, yeah, it's the only one. That's still. Well, there's another one now, it's operating yeah. Okay yeah, Nashville kind of sucks for.

Josh:

Tennessee. In general it's a blue city. It sucks for it.

Zach:

It's like when I went to St Louis. Missouri also sucks ass for it, and you have to go across the state lines.

Josh:

Oh, that's where all the clubs are.

Zach:

They're not in St Louis. Okay, All right Well you have to go across the river, but anyway, deja Vu. And then Divas Gentleman Club. That's the local joint, that's not a franchise.

Josh:

So what is? Well, you know, spearmint Rhino's class.

Zach:

Yeah. So it gave me like some you know generic, you know like you know marketing kind of highlights and why it's popular kind of bullshit. So I was like this is not like give me the real details. You know what I'm saying, and then he talks about.

Zach:

You know the variety of personnel and then, you know pricing, and then safety and research was like its parameters or whatever, and so that was the list. So you kind of put Spearmint Rhino number one, cowboys number two, cheetahs number three, deja deja vu number four and divas number five, right, so I'm guessing there's only five clubs. There might be some others, but yeah, but it's fucking lex and he can talk to you like how many can you have?

Zach:

that's kind of what I was thinking. You know, I'm saying it's not a not a huge, like it's not a big metropolitan type thing.

Zach:

No, um, yeah, so we did that. So I was like here's one. The one rule of thumb whenever you go into some of these clubs is if they serve alcohol, they can't take the bottoms off. Is basically the general rule. Most states are like that, which is fine it's if they serve alcohol, then they can only do topless only. So just rule of thumb there.

Josh:

I think that I don't know, it's like a travel channel bit we're doing right now.

Zach:

Yeah, this is like yeah pretty much I'm your travel advisory. Let me be your guide, so anyway. So I was asking, instead of just you know, looking up and asking which clubs serve alcohol which don't, or whatever. I just asked what are the? Um, you know which clubs serve alcohol which don't, or whatever? I just asked that what are the lap dance rules in Lexington?

Zach:

Right, Makes sense Because also states have particular rules, right, there's only there's some, some that you have to be so many feet from the stage while they're topless. Okay, right, sure, and then, uh, and then also, if you go to a VIP room and they're bought and they where they, if they don't serve alcohol and it's BYOB, they can take their bottoms off, but only in a VIP rooms, and whenever their bottoms are off, they had to be so many feet away from me. Like there's all these rules, sure, right. So I was like what are the fucking rules?

Josh:

Cause I don't know what you want to go in knowing.

Zach:

I is like, yeah, so I asked that question and it's pretty much the same generic kind of thing If it didn't have any. Apparently Kentucky or Lexington City does not have any particular laws regarding the performance itself, but it's really based on whatever the club decides on touching and all that kind of stuff.

Josh:

But if it the one rule is if you serve alcohol, bottoms got to stay on that's pretty much standard, so it's a lot like vegas, but pretty much yes, so it sounds like yeah so that's what I was trying to, that's what I was trying to ask the.

Zach:

The question it was, like you know, is this is as strict as vegas or not? Let's google reviews probably would have given you more information well, no, I'm saying it's giving me a bevy, I'm just giving the oh, okay, I'm not spelling it all out.

Zach:

Yeah, I got you.

Zach:

No, yeah. So I mean it breaks it all down, talks about specific, if there's any kind of feat that they have to be when they're doing certain things. They even talk about people's experience with how many bouncers around if there's a police presence, like a whole bunch of shit.

Josh:

Okay, experience with like how many bouncers around?

Zach:

if there's like a police presence like a whole bunch of shit. Okay, you want to feel safe. Yes, and it's mostly for the, for the dancers, right? That's the point sure uh, they're. And also it did make a point that said that if it's a franchise place, they're more going to be more strict and on top of their game, and, um, because it's it's a franchise, you know I'm saying yeah, correct, so the privately owned.

Zach:

You know what I'm saying.

Zach:

Yeah, correct. So the privately owned ones, the ones that are just you know that one spot they're, more often than not, they will be the ones that are going to have the lax rules. But then also that comes with getting rated, Like it ended up telling me that Diva is the one that's the local place. Yeah, it's not a franchise.

Josh:

They had a shooting in 2019 right like okay, well, so you can touch, but you'll get shot. You might get shot right.

Zach:

So what I'm saying is like my boyfriend rolls up, so what it? I mean the, the. That's really easy to explain because, like, if, if, the, if the place is super lax, right in the rules, it's going to attract more. You know less than gentlemanly dudes, douchebags and sleazeballs.

Josh:

Douchebags and assholes, and fucking thugs and shit. And that's a recipe for disaster, I think you should take the guys to the Rhino.

Zach:

I think we should go to Divas Fucking ride the light.

Josh:

Oh, okay, well, start at it.

Zach:

I think you should go to the.

Josh:

Rhino. Probably I mean that was a nice place.

Zach:

Yeah, right. That was a real I mean, and they all served alcohol, so they're all actually in. Like all of them, they serve alcohol.

Josh:

That bar was nice too.

Zach:

No one's going to be bobs.

Josh:

And I'll say this right now.

Zach:

I've been to like a hundred or anything like that. Do you need to step up? But I guess I'm not in troubled deserts or anything like that. But anyway, I've been to a handful and uh I gotta say, uh, keep the bottoms on.

Josh:

I've only ever been to two with you and yeah, I agree a hundred percent.

Zach:

I'm right there with you, don't need the bottoms off.

Josh:

Well, you've had both. I've only had.

Zach:

Yeah, that stays covered I yeah, see, and I would say like kind of weird me out yeah, like when they go to you, go to the vip, uh, most time if they're dancing on you it's on like their shit's on. Obviously that's a little, but I have been to some key west, for instance.

Josh:

They put in your face.

Zach:

Yes, yikes, it's, that's a free for all down there. But anyway, uh, and probably and they're all, a lot of them come from Miami, so Miami is probably very much. There's probably some clubs that are like free for all down there too, but anyway, I haven't been to any clubs in Miami. But uh, but a little wild, I don't know, it's international water rules or something, I don't know, but not really part of Florida. But I got to say just seeing just vagina and buttholes by themselves all the time.

Josh:

Yeah.

Zach:

Like give me a little peek, see what you got going on down there. Cool, cover it back up. Now cover it back up and right, you know. Okay, well, you know, this is me. I don't know, maybe some people like looking at buttholes all day I.

Josh:

I know I'm all right, I'm not. I'm not a fan of it. I don't need to see balloon.

Zach:

That's fine, I don't need to see that and you know, sometimes, uh, their, their shit's, you know, blown out you know, y'all need to see that.

Josh:

I'm going to see all that. You know what I'm saying. Hey, you know what? That's fine, they're all beautiful, blah, blah, whatever.

Zach:

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I get it. Some of them just are best.

Josh:

They probably feel the same way if it was a room full of dicks.

Zach:

Oh yeah, 100%. Nobody wants to alcohol and them serve me drinks than having to BYOB and bring my own, than to you know, yeah, I agree.

Zach:

Then it's just like being around a bunch of super hot waitresses.

Josh:

Yeah, pretty much yeah.

Zach:

So anyway, that's my general take on it. So whenever I saw that one, it was like pretty much all the Lexington ones where they serve alcohol, and so they got to keep their bottom when is like that's not a lot.

Josh:

When is this trip occurring?

Zach:

uh, maybe in about a month ish oh wow, so it's coming up something like that. Okay, um, it's in the preliminary stages of planning right now, so have the boys been to the rhino before?

Zach:

I think, uh, I think drew's been to the one in vegas, ah nice, yeah, because he was asking me when he was out there last. He was asking me about the ones that I went to, yeah, that we went to. And I told him, uh, and I don't, I think, I'm not sure which one he ended up going to. Okay, I'm not sure if it was a Sapphire or Spearmint Rhino, or do we go to the peppermint hippo? No, it's the rhino. It was the rhino, that's right. It's a big fucking rhinoceros, that's correct.

Josh:

We went to those two. The first trip we went, we went to that one and all we did. Well, you found them. I just told you to use your skills.

Zach:

Well, that was my stripper friend. Well, that was her number two. That, well, that was her number two that's correct.

Zach:

So it was her suggestion.

Zach:

Yes, actually good call, uh. Actually I need to hit her up so you can tell her we're like back on air. I don't know if she's uh, because she was an avid listener.

Josh:

Yep, I don't know she donated money to the show.

Zach:

I think she fell off at some point, because she used to, you know, message me about stuff that we talk about on the show every once in a while. But I haven't heard from her in a while.

Josh:

Tell her to send some more money.

Zach:

That's one more listener.

Zach:

we need to get Right. Yeah, dude, we actually have a lot of downloads from Nevada she did go to Alaska not too long ago to try to dance there.

Josh:

It was just for vacation slash work.

Zach:

And then something she didn't make her audition. They were closed today, so she was like fuck it, I'm just going to make this like a vacation. So she went all around Alaska Trying to copy you. Yeah, pretty much. She actually went to a lot of the same spots that I ended up going to.

Josh:

It was a good spot. It was a good episode. We broke all that down.

Zach:

Yeah, dude, highly recommend doing Alaska. But if I had a fucking, of course we went to Anchorage and that's where she went. That's where the club is. It was something like super Alaskan. It was like the, something about like the sled dogs den no it was like the beaver den or some shit Fuck Like of course. Yes, it was some sort of it club or like a hangout for hunters.

Zach:

Yeah, so it's you know which is probably both you know, right, there's something like that I can't.

Zach:

Don't call me actually. Let's look it up right now.

Josh:

It's something it was very alaskan um, let's see alaska strip club well, that algorithm is gonna be a good here in the next couple days.

Zach:

Yeah I know it's gonna just be nothing but strip clubs. Oh, you know, this is what it was. This is what it was. It actually had alaska in the name.

Josh:

It was a great alaskan bush company yeah, perfect, okay, which is perfect, which is great. Uh, what if they like a bush section?

Zach:

yeah, right, so leave them so see, that's what I'm saying.

Zach:

It sounds like a, like a, you know, nature tours, or something like that right, perfect, are you gonna take a sea plane and you're gonna like a like a, you know nature tours or something like that? Right, or are you?

Zach:

gonna take a sea plane and you're gonna fly over the you know alaskan wilderness, but no, or you go in there and there's just titties and bush and bush, right, uh, so anyway, uh, if I did, if I would not have been with uh family, family members, uh I definitely would have, because that first night when we get there, we just basically got in the hotel and just went to sleep.

Zach:

If I'd have known that was around. Yeah, you know, I was with the boys. I've been like fuck, sleep, that's true, you don't need it. No, no, we would. And that one remember that there was that one girl. That was it the second time. Yeah, it was the second time. We we went back. We went to spearmint rhino, the first one that came up to me, and she sat down and I turned and I was like I just I was already a little tall, dark, yeah, dark, dark hair chick was a few little tattoos, I remember I turned to her.

Josh:

I was like you are my type, yeah I remember you saying that she was out loud she was actually.

Zach:

I know she was actually from alaska. Yeah, she was tall dark hair. Yeah, uh, she had like told, I should like dark kind of curly hair, indian like yes, I remember skin color.

Zach:

Is that right, but she's kind of tannish, yeah, but she yeah um, you like kind of, yeah, yep, I remember you saying that it was awesome yeah, she was, she was cool, um, and then that other girl came up and ended up gobbling up all my attention. Of course they, you know they very um, respectful of you. If, like a one of the girls is with a client patron, they're not going to try to steal, you know they don't do that or whatever. But I kind of at the time I was kind of like you go away, come back yeah, you guys should fight about it like I'd see her walk around, I was like no, come over here and tell her to leave me alone.

Zach:

You sit down fuck.

Josh:

That girl was a lot bigger than her. She could have just removed her ass.

Zach:

You probably could have right, yeah, but the other girl ended up being really cool too, because she gave me a 30-minute lap dance for like 20 bucks. Yep, that was wild. And then that's where you ended up, you know we ended up developing a possible new business model, which apparently is a thing.

Zach:

Now I saw that I came across this I think it was on Instagram or something, and that's a thing to where in some places, they have massage therapists on staff. Yeah Right, well, they'll work the girls out and you know on them eight hour shifts, you know 10 hour shifts or whatever. You know on them fucking ridiculous heels and dance around and shit. They need to get the muscles worked out. Well, you have to.

Josh:

You're going to.

Zach:

I mean, it's a physical, it's a physical job athletes. So you know I would, I should be a, you know, a sports therapist. Is basically all I'm saying.

Josh:

Yeah, I mean, that's very niche very niche sports there. Well, I mean, you're no different than those people online that only do chiropractic adjustments for hot women and yoga pants.

Zach:

Yeah Right, which they only, that's only qualify to do that. I've shared some like I've seen chiropractic videos before and some of the ones that I've come across where it's like a Russian dude yes, he's just straight molesting these women.

Josh:

He's the one where he's like, grabs their hips. There's no chiropractic, there's no medical thing going on. The adjustment is dry humping?

Zach:

Yes, pretty much. They're like like laying on their stomach. It's kind of like that and they'll grab it. Steve over here humping something.

Josh:

No, he's about to lay down on that.

Zach:

Oh yeah, so yeah, he does this thing. I wish we had video he's kneading. Well, yeah, he'll find it. You get one of his toys and he'll get all four of his paws on it and he'll just like bounce on it and like make biscuits. I don't even know why he's doing it. He doesn't even get a video of it. Yeah, look at him.

Josh:

It's really odd. Yeah, he does it. It looks like he's about to take a shit. It really does. I should try this one before I get in bed.

Zach:

Right, yeah, that's what it looks like it's like the floor is lava. Yeah, pretty much.

Josh:

I'm just playing a game like this is my life raft.

Zach:

Pretty much. Yeah, he does it every once in a while, man, I don't know what it's about, and then he's hold on, then he'll bite it and he's like, oh well, and you're like, all right, not yet. Here I'm going to try to balance on this thing. I think I could probably teach him tricks to like balance on like a beach ball or something.

Josh:

Because that's basically what it looks like. Yeah, but look how I'm waiting for him to sit down.

Zach:

Cats have extra vertebrae in their spines so they have that spring when they run. Oh, yeah he's just constantly adjusting. I'm not quite sure what he's doing.

Zach:

You'll love to know what's going on in his little head right now.

Zach:

He's like yep, whoa, whoa, adjust, wait this paw, move this paw. I think he's going to sit down, perfect. Is that what he's trying to do? He's trying to sit.

Josh:

Usually they'll do it in a circle and they'll like pat it out and then sit he. His little legs are quivering like he wants to sit down.

Zach:

Like he wants to sit or he wants to hump or he wants to shit. One of the two or all three?

Josh:

Yes, or four, however many you said. This has been going on for a minute and 20. I'm about to. He'll do it.

Zach:

He'll do that for a while.

Josh:

Wow, Until you know he gets, I don't want him to get stage fright.

Zach:

I'll leave him. It's weird, but yeah, anyway. So that guy like I've seen those videos, the guy like it's it's, yeah, like he grabs their ankles. They're like on their stomach, yeah, and he's. They, you know, he's grabbing their ankles and he's just kind of like shimmying their fucking legs back and forth and it's just like you're not adjusting anything. Well, you're just trying to like shake their ass. Have you seen that on camera? You've seen the one where it's really weird?

Josh:

You've seen the one where they have those classes where there's a dude doing their chakras and basically these women are having orgasms but he's just touching them Everybody's clothed but he's just touching them. And this is a class and everybody's watching like, oh, this is great, I can't wait for my turn.

Zach:

How much do you think of that as real?

Josh:

or as bullshit. It's bullshit. I don't care what anybody says, it's bullshit.

Zach:

It's like this account I follow on Instagram called McDojo Life, I think, and basically it's a guy who's a real fight martial arts aficionado and he follows UFC and Brazilian jiu-Jitsu and all that kind of stuff and so he knows, like, what real fighting is and he basically just goes around and exposes all of these like Chi masters.

Josh:

You mean the ones that can do like one karate chop and like kill a decapitated guy.

Zach:

Yeah, so, like somebody, like you know, they do these demonstrations to where, like they'll have a student, have a student, punch them in the stomach, but they'll move their body and their energy and chi will go through the fist and immobilize and why are? They always a lard ass.

Josh:

Yes, Never a fit person.

Zach:

They're always always some fat middle-aged fuck.

Josh:

It's a washed-up collegiate athlete.

Zach:

Every time dude. And they also have some bogus-ass fucking philosophy behind their style or whatever.

Josh:

This is like the hidden owl.

Zach:

Yes, there'd be some weird fat pedophile-looking dude sitting on a fucking chair and he's fighting three guys while not moving his hands, legs. He's just sitting in a chair and it's like every time they punch his shoulder he'll like twitch and they'll like fall and flip and then his gi never fits right yeah and it's always none. Of it makes any sense, like he's got like a fucking yellow belt on or something, have you?

Josh:

noticed they wear their gi, just like a fat dude wears a polo. All the buttons are undone.

Zach:

Yes and the collar's. They look like they're wearing a bathrobe. It's retarded, but yeah, when I see the chiropractor thing, going on. That's what I think it's bullshit.

Josh:

I went and I've never had a full adjustment. I actually asked do I have to be a hot girl to get a full adjustment? Is that what qualifies me to get any work done? I mean I was fixed, but all the time they ever advertise it's like I always wanted to go, but I always feel like you.

Zach:

I feel like you need.

Josh:

They give you x-rays. I mean you and they work the problem. You know, I've never just wanted to be like adjust me Right. I guess you could.

Zach:

Yeah, I don't have any systemic pain, chronic pain of any kind.

Josh:

I went to get fixed, so I can't just go to the.

Zach:

I know I can't just go to the chiropractor.

Josh:

You can. My dad's been. There was one at the airport he used to. I know. Funny enough, one of the airports he went into for traveling, for work, there was a chiropractor's office and he went every time he went to that airport he would get adjusted.

Zach:

Yeah, no pain, you just paying for that. I don't know, I just never thought about doing that. You generally avoid doctors of all types.

Josh:

Yeah, of course, if I'm not bleeding out the front or back, correct.

Zach:

As long as the hole is not bleeding.

Josh:

Yeah, pretty much. As long as there's nothing leaking out of either one of my faucets, I'm good.

Zach:

Exactly.

Josh:

Yeah, that's kind of how I feel about it. Right If the color's off red.

Zach:

Yeah, that's typically color green or red. Green is like a warning green is green is the warning sign, is it? And then yeah, because I mean you feel like a mucus or whatever.

Josh:

It can be kind of green or yellowish, but you know, here I'm just talking in general oh, I thought you meant the front.

Zach:

I thought I was like dick and ass I was like green, yeah, if you got mucus out of your ass. You got my bad green. I don't know what the fuck that is it's very come like yeah, right, yeah but yeah, green is a warning, red is a fucking. Get your ass to the hospital. Yeah, pretty much so you're good. Um, yeah, so, uh, that's a little, uh, little hot tip for you, um, a little medical tip, but um, yeah, I don't, I don't know what the thing I would like to go and get a full adjustment, you should go it's just because I, you know, I mean you known me a long time.

Zach:

I pop my any joint. I could pop, I'd pop.

Josh:

I still. That's crazy to me. The video you were talking about, though, like where that dude just shakes that. Well, now they have those classes too, where that woman will give classes on sexual positions to other women. Yeah, and like it'll be two women and she's just you got to do it like this and she's grinding on this poor lady on the ground. I'm like this this is an actual paid class, I think. I think you can find a class or a group of people for anything.

Zach:

I think some of that, like the chiropractor guy, the Russian dude that's just molesting women and calls himself a chiropractor. Yeah, they also the one that by like putting their his hand on the small, their back.

Josh:

Or he does it like on their stomach. He's like I'm aligning your chakras.

Zach:

They're like legit, like convulsing.

Josh:

Yeah.

Zach:

Like that, and then the chick that does like the you know, I don't know sex position lessons, but it looks like yoga or something. Yeah, half the time I feel like you know that looks like a class or a business. It's just for Instagram. Yeah, probably the whole thing. It's almost like you're aware of these Instagram influencer type. These usually women that they'll be on a private jet, but they actually have entire stages and sets.

Zach:

That's a jet, and so you can walk onto this stage and you can pretend that you're like living the high life on this private jet or whatever. That's how I feel about these chiropractors and these classes. Quote air, quote classes. That people do is it's all set up for Instagram. Well, and you know, depending on what the women look like, I get trapped.

Josh:

We know we've said it before on this show. I mean, it's just hot chicks, it's attractive people in general. But speaking of weird shit like that, you've seen the video from TLC where that guy has that condition where he has like 30, 40 orgasms a day.

Zach:

Yeah.

Josh:

I like how they went to try to go play golf First off. Disc golf First off. Yeah, thank you First off. First off, uh, disc golf first off. Yeah, thank you, first off.

Zach:

uh, I'm not hanging out with you I'm not taking you out in public if you have 40 or 50 organs a day. If I was like, like, maybe, like right now that's your house.

Josh:

Yeah, like I like if I had known you and like as long as I have and you told me in the beginning, but if you just like had keep that hidden for almost 20 years, right, I'm like I can't go to the movies with you. If you're next to me in a sci-fi movie, like watching the Avengers, and you climax at the end.

Zach:

I mean we'd have, we'd have to hang out.

Josh:

in short, now, if you could do it, like quietly and like you just look like you're having a real bad headache or something like but that dude like had to get on how to say. I'm not a very. Your O-face is not yeah.

Zach:

I'm not a very aggressive climaxer. I like that better. That's cool. You know what I mean. I'm a very understated, subtle climaxer, like a fucking ninja. You wouldn't even know it.

Josh:

Oh, okay. Well, yeah, you're by your, I mean.

Zach:

No, even, oh, even with.

Josh:

Oh, okay.

Zach:

Yeah, huh, not very vocal, at least during that period. Okay, you know what I mean. When the vinegar strokes hit like everything shuts off. So you're quiet, I'm quiet generally Good for you and it's just enjoying the nut, you know. Yeah, I'm not trying to be performative with it.

Josh:

Are you performative? No, it's not performative, but it's like.

Zach:

I just don't.

Zach:

Come on, Josh, Tell me how do you nut?

Josh:

Well, sometimes I just like you know how I am. I'm an emotional dude anyways when it comes to everything. So, obviously, if it's, that's what a fucking question. How do you nut? Yeah, how do you nut? I'll be honest, it's, I'll be honest, it's loud.

Zach:

That's a question that's going out to the audience. How do you not Message back on all of our socials? How do you not?

Josh:

I apologize for family, who's listening to this?

Zach:

But they know what this show is.

Josh:

We're 72 episodes in. I mean, I talked about shaving myself the first time. I got to episode 5 of this show. Yeah, no, I'm loud, I'm like a woman all right, it's not to be performative. It's kind of like I just kind of like you just get into it.

Zach:

Dude, kylie's gonna listen. You're just getting into it, pissed like I.

Josh:

Yeah, I just get into it you know I am, I'm an experienced guy. Yeah so like you don't go on a roller coaster and then, like when you put your, arms down the hill. You're just like this, yeah right, you, you get all excited.

Zach:

That's how I am okay I got you all right, I'm just excited to be there remember, once upon a time, we were talking about how this whole podcast was gonna be like movies and tv. Yeah well, you started to get back to its origins of like jerking off and sex and clubs.

Zach:

Yeah, dude, and hot women no like that's, that's how I look at it, like I I'm gonna, like I'm I'm having, I'm happy to be there yeah, yeah, yeah right, I'm having a great time, right exactly, you're just letting the emotions take you wherever they go.

Josh:

I don't ever want to see my face recorded.

Zach:

No, no, no.

Josh:

If we did a video panel of just like, if everybody like just face, like you know they do those reaction videos when women get Brazilians?

Zach:

and they just show their face and it's like if they just showed like dudes O faces, that would go viral. I'll record my next time.

Zach:

I can't.

Josh:

It's horrible.

Zach:

Because I don't want to know it's being recorded.

Josh:

I swear to God, I'm having like deja vu that I've talked about this on the podcast before. We still don't know what it is and your friend said it was my first girlfriend.

Zach:

You do it out in the wild. Yes, my first girlfriend, ex. Now she told me that I do my O-Face in the wild and I'm like I swear to God she would never tell me what it was. I can tell you right now I do not do it. So she could have been fucking with me the entire time. Maybe I don't, but then, unconfirmed, I could be doing it out in public, and if anybody has ever seen my face when a camera, is nearby.

Josh:

If anybody's listening that's seen Zach come, can y'all let us know what his face looks like?

Zach:

That's the reason from then on out. Doggy. Only, no one's seen my face since she made that comment.

Josh:

Alright, what's going to suck is, if you ever found out, it was that you do it during our podcast.

Zach:

Right, exactly, yeah, I can tell you right now.

Josh:

I do not do mine in public, so you don't have to worry about that, unless I get tasered by the police or yeah, maybe that's what it is I guess if we ever go to a theme park together.

Zach:

My O face and also my getting stabbed face is the same thing, or?

Josh:

they take those screenshots of you, like in rides. They're like you want to buy a picture at the end of the ride.

Zach:

They're like that's going to be your face.

Zach:

That's what I'm saying, if anybody knows me. If there's a camera nearby and it's a candid shot, for some reason my face goes into contortion mode and I make the weird. I never make a good face in a candid shot. Yeah, in a candid photo, most I never make a good face in a candid shot. Yeah, in a candid photo? Most people don't, but I mean, it's like a skill that I have. Oh, oh, what's up Siri.

Zach:

She heard you Fuck you, siri she said try again, but yeah, so I imagine my O-face is captured on a camera somewhere.

Josh:

Hopefully a family card or a Christmas card would be great. Family card, a Christmas card.

Zach:

Right, usually I'm smiling. In those I can tell you I'm not smiling.

Josh:

Next time you jerk off, do it in the mirror.

Zach:

Of all the faces that someone could make, a guy O-face, smiling is the creepiest one. It has to be the worst one. Would frowning be worse? Well, I'm saying yeah, but I mean, well, would anybody if you're smiling?

Josh:

right, I don't think I could, because your eye starts to twitch. Yes, yeah, it's like sucking on a lemon.

Zach:

Well, and also it's like that's got to be kind of off-putting and creepy Right. No, am I wrong? I think I've ever smiled, maybe afterwards, I mean just like pumped right. I mean seeing a lady naked was cool as fuck. Well, I mean just act it out in your head and then you smile that just is weird.

Josh:

But it's an awesome moment, right, it's great, it's a good time, you're having a good time. It should be something that you will smile at least we're having a good time. I don't know. I don't know about her.

Zach:

I have no idea but, um, you know, we're having a good time and then I can't.

Josh:

I don't know I don't remember, I might try I might try.

Zach:

I might try a smile but like a like, a like a hallmark smile it's probably, like you know, trying to like keep your eyes open while you sneeze like it's impossible.

Josh:

Have you tried that? You can't smile? There's a girl on instagram that tried that. She got she did it. Yeah, it was really weird looking.

Zach:

It's probably like it's probably physiologically impossible. It's the scariest so when you hit vinegar strokes and you nut, you are incapable of grinning.

Josh:

That's the scariest I've ever been. While I'm driving is when I sneeze Because I have to close my eyes briefly.

Zach:

And I swear I'm like this, is it?

Josh:

This is my moment.

Zach:

And doesn't your heart skip a beat or some shit like that when you do that?

Zach:

Yeah, it's a dangerous time.

Josh:

It's not a good time.

Zach:

The projectiles come out like 100 miles an hour 200 miles an hour?

Josh:

Did you say you're going to smile during vinegar strokes? And try it.

Zach:

Yeah, I'm going to see if it's like trying to sneeze with your eyes open. It's difficult, like doable, but I'm just going to try to crack a smile.

Josh:

Let's report that back in next week.

Zach:

That's personal research. We'll get into some scientific method here and figure out the best way to do this. Get a hypothesis, figure it out Right, test the theory, then document our results. That's it, and then we need to be a work-sided page. We may have to skip the peer review, but then we'll get it published in a journal and maybe we'll win a Nobel peace prize.

Josh:

I've given him out peace, I mean my peace. Right now I get it.

Zach:

I mean you met your deck.

Josh:

I got it.

Zach:

Well, uh, movies, TV, let's get back to something like that. Here was something that we talked about, uh, last episode. Uh, about movies that come out in twos. Right, yeah, there were some others that were talked about. That was mentioned to me and I thought we kind of brought it up. But what if the two of us came up with all the combos that we can think of and then pick which one is better than the other? All right, Right, which is the better of the two? So if an alien came down and says, oh, look at all these movies that look the fucking same. Which one should I watch? We could tell them, like, watch this one, don't watch that one.

Zach:

Okay.

Zach:

Right yeah, so you remember. The first one I think we talked about was Armageddon and Deep. Impact Armageddon and Deep Impact.

Josh:

Now you're not talking about them coming out the same year. This is the same genre, basically the same a re-skinned movie.

Zach:

Yes, it's the same concept of a movie that came out within the year of art Okay. I'm pretty sure that would be the standard and I'm pretty sure those two movies came out within a year apart. And of the two let's just start with that Armageddon and Deep Impact which one would you recommend over the other, like if you had to destroy one movie and only watch the other one. Which would you pick? Which one would you?

Josh:

destroy. You want to do that as our first one? Yeah, I'm going to pick Deep Impact. Deep Impact really, yep, okay, yep. The one yeah, uh, I'm gonna pick deep impact. Deep impact, really. Yep, okay, yep. Uh, reason being well, you go, you give me yours I think I'm gonna have to go armageddon okay, uh, for me I think there's a little more.

Josh:

Armageddon is a lot more like, I think, for the. For me it's a little more. I don't want to say fake, because both of them are pretty far-fetched in a way, but I think for me Armageddon was kind of cowboy-ish, as far as you were really more immersed in the characters and casting. Deep Impact to me was a little more.

Zach:

I mean Armageddon was Michael Bay. Yeah, I love both of them. Was it Jerry Bruckheimer? No, it was Michael.

Josh:

Bay, michael Bay, norma Gettin, I'm pretty sure.

Zach:

So it was very Michael Bay if it was, yeah, trying to go back to the conversation I was having to, very ill-prepared. But so why would you go? That's why you would go. Deep Impact, yeah, because for me.

Josh:

I think Deep Impact is a little more. I've gone back and watched Deep Impact more than I have Armageddon Okay, Armageddon to me is like I like the characters more because the casting was really solid, which both had A-list celebrities in them.

Zach:

Yeah, I mean, I go for Armageddon for that reason, because Bruce Willis, Ben Affleck, owen Wilson, michael Clarke, duncan, steve Buscemi like it had fucking Billy, bob Thornton, like it had everybody, yeah and everybody was great to me and the concept with it being, you know, longshore drillers, you know deep-sea drillers on fucking an asteroid, deep Impact was definitely more scientific.

Josh:

I guess that's the part that I'm. That's what I'm. I guess that's probably the better way If I was going to choose to. I like both of them. I've seen both repeatedly. But yeah, deep Impact Armageddon of course had the asteroids. It's the size of Texas, it's going to wipe it out. And then Deep Impact was a comet. Armageddon was an asteroid.

Josh:

That's two big differences yes, also, if you go back and look at the visuals, the asteroid in Armageddon looked like something out of a science fiction comic or movie, or because it was like green, it growled deep. Impact was a comet. It looked very common-esque, like it looked like one, yeah, yeah and then now there was some, also some, you know when they split the whole thing they blew up the comet and split it, so a piece of it hit still which that whole shit was crazy yeah, so okay, so all right.

Zach:

So yeah, I see why you like Deep Impact because it's a little bit more realistic. A little bit and the fact that a piece of it did hit.

Zach:

So there's the disaster element that you got the visuals of it, the visual disaster element.

Zach:

Yeah, that's true. That's fair. I agree with that assessment. I think if I was to watch one on repeat, I would watch Armageddon and also that great scene where they're singing the Aerosmith song.

Josh:

It's a great movie. It's a great movie. Billy Bob Thornton is great in it. I love the whole thing, it's an awesome movie.

Zach:

It's actually one of the first movies that I watched that it's PG-13, right, it's a PG-13 movie.

Zach:

Yeah, and it was the first time that I think I was in a movie theater or maybe it was a rented vhs tape or whatever with my parents and we were watching it and billy bob thornton in a pg-13 movie says fuck yeah. He says, and you fucking know it, right, it was whenever they're gonna like prematurely, like detonate the nukes remotely or whatever, and billy bob thornton was like you know, says something like if, if you do this, then we're all gonna die, and you fucking know it, or whatever, something like that. And everybody was like oh fuck. You know, we weren't like oh fuck, because we just heard fuck, whatever. But it was one of the first fucks in a PG-13 movie that I'm aware of that I heard, you know. And now there's so many fucks that they can, so many certain words that are normally for rated R movies that they can put in PG-13 movies, and I just remember Armageddon being like one of the first movies that they slipped in one fuck in a PG-13 movie and got it past the ratings board.

Josh:

I got one for you when you're ready for another one.

Zach:

Okay.

Zach:

Mission to Mars, red Planet, okay, okay got one for you when you're ready for another one.

Josh:

Okay, mission to mars, red planet, okay, okay if you need, if you need a refresher, I can give it to you.

Zach:

So uh, mission to mars. Uh, that was gary sinise yep uh, when they had they, the whole concept was they were going to go investigate the face on mars, which is this geological phenomenon, which is obviously just some rock formations that look like a face. But the concept there and then Red Planet had Val Kilmer in it yes, and a more.

Josh:

AI type. Thing.

Zach:

And they ended up. Spoiler alert there ended up being some oxygen on Mars because of a creature, a bug, an insect that ended up producing oxygen whenever it fed on. Whatever the fuck. Which was interesting Mission to Mars? That was an actual face. But it ended up actually being a face. It was an actual metal structure.

Josh:

That's when they found out that Mars at one time had life and then a comet hit it.

Zach:

I think I saw Red Planet one time.

Josh:

I've seen Red Planet one time. Yeah, that's it. I've seen.

Zach:

Mission to Mars more than often Exactly.

Josh:

I've seen Red Planet one time. Yeah, that's it. I've seen Mission to Mars more than often. Exactly yes, because the casting's better, the story's better, the story's better.

Zach:

And there's one scene that always was like fucked me up, and I was just like I was.

Josh:

I don't know when the guy gets twisted inside that yes, the same one.

Zach:

Yes, the same one. It's actually a security thing. Yes.

Zach:

It's a protocol that ends up destroying everything that's around the face whenever it gets.

Josh:

It looks like a big sandworm.

Zach:

Yes, and it ends up getting the dude, and it was. Oh, who was it? It was Jerry O'Connell. I want to say yeah, I'm pretty sure. Look that up. I think it was Jerry O'Connell and it was either. Maybe I'm mixing him up with somebody else, but anyway, the cyclone sucks him up and he's spinning so fast that whenever his muscles give out and his legs and arms fly out from the centrifugal force, they rip apart. Oh, he's torn apart like a doll, yeah.

Zach:

Yeah.

Zach:

And I remember being like, oh fuck, that was crazy. And of course, spoiler alert, gary Sinise ends up getting into the face and also, don Cheadle was in it.

Josh:

Yeah, he's the one that survived on Mars after that happened.

Zach:

Yeah, he was the one that they went to go to rescue and he ended up kind of creating like some oxygen for himself. It was uh, maybe it wasn't Jerry O'Connell, maybe I'm thinking of something else. Let me look up. Um, yeah, I like mission to Mars. I. The ending was a little. I thought maybe it was a little a little strange.

Josh:

Dude, he got to go to their planet.

Zach:

Yeah, he left because his wife had died and he left wife had died and he left, yeah, and so I think part of that was uh I kind of it was a little bit of a letdown because I wanted to see what they look like.

Josh:

Servy grove died.

Zach:

No, I'm sorry maybe I don't know why I'm thinking jerry o'connell not him, peter outbridge.

Josh:

Uh, tim robbins, and tim robbins is who havens come on, smith I think I'm mixing up with Tim Robbins.

Zach:

Tim Robbins is he died before they even got there, because there was, you know, they had to I don't know do something. They were trying to go from one pod to, from one ship to another vehicle or something like that and had to spacewalk it, remember, and then they were like all tethered together and they were trying to get to this I guess the lander or something and he ended up missing and ended up floating off into orbit or whatever, and his wife was trying to save him.

Zach:

And in order to stop her from coming out because she was going to go too far where she couldn't come back, he pulled his helmet off and froze and his face all cracked and shit. There's some good scenes in that movie. It is good, it's a real good that really stick with.

Zach:

So they had excellent call out Uh yeah, red planet mission. Red planet was kind of like. I just remember there was like a. There was a robot like a dog like thing that they brought with them and it like went fucking haywire and it was like hunting them. Yes, Um bugs that whenever you lit them on fire, they like produce oxygen or some shit.

Josh:

That was a strange movie and I don't remember any of that.

Zach:

It was more action oriented movie. Mission to Mars was a little bit more of a thriller, kind of like, you know, I guess kind of more realistic. But I mean there was fucking you know an alien, you know, monument at the fucking end up being a ship at the end. So that was a little weird. But they apparently see, the concept was that, you know, monument at the fucking end of being a ship at the end. So that was a little weird. But, um, and then they apparently see, the concept was that the aliens you know on Mars, the Martians, the planet was dying and they had to leave before they left. They seeded earth with humans and life and everything like that before they left. That was the concept. So, yeah, absolutely, absolutely Good one. Here's some, uh, here's some non-sci-fi ones that, yeah, hit me. Here's. Here's two that, um, that were, that that were brought to my attention was um, um, no strings attached and fuck you can't think.

Josh:

The other one friends with benefits friends with benefits yep, right.

Zach:

Um, I get those two mixed up so much because they're basically the same fucking movie. I think Friends with Benefits did better.

Josh:

I think so Box office-wise.

Zach:

I think so. I think no Strings Attached was who's in that? That was Ashton Kutcher and Natalie.

Josh:

Portman oh, that is a good one. I haven't seen that one, Friends with Benefits was Mila Kunis. And Justin Timberlake, and.

Zach:

Justin Timberlake. But yeah, I think I like the Justin Timberlake, Mila Kunis.

Josh:

I don't remember no Strings Attached as well.

Zach:

No Again. This is the same fucking movie and the concept is that it was two friends that have been unlucky in the dating scene scene and they just want to just like and everybody has a different motivation or reason why they're unlucky and then they just want to like, have a a no strings attached, like friends with benefits situation to attract to people.

Josh:

We're friends.

Zach:

Like why can't two friends just fuck and not have to worry about playing tennis? Right, right, that was the concept for both.

Josh:

Why can't two friends just fuck and not have to worry about?

Zach:

anything. He's just like playing tennis Right right, that was the concept for both movies. Yeah Right, and of course, inevitably you could see it. Somebody catches feelings and interrupts the whole thing.

Josh:

It's very predictable.

Zach:

Very predictable, and they both one discovers that they want more. The other one then gets upset because it breaks their agreement. There's a big fight and then they both, one or the other, realize that actually this is the person, that this is my person, my soulmate, blah, blah, blah. And they all end up together and in a relationship. At the end, basically the same fucking movie just different cast.

Zach:

That's a different joke.

Zach:

I think you're right. Friends with Benefits is the one I probably saw more often.

Josh:

I got one that's not either related. It's a animated movie, a bug's life and ants.

Zach:

Okay, all right, good one. I think I saw ants first. Yep, right, but I think bugs, a bug's life, would be the more popular one. It's funny.

Josh:

What's crazy If you watch ants is a lot darker and actually the dialogue is a little more adult than A Bug's Life.

Zach:

Yeah.

Josh:

But A Bug's Life was the first Pixar movie I saw, with bloopers.

Zach:

Yes.

Josh:

But actual animated bloopers.

Zach:

Yeah, I think the reason why the only thing about the ants one is Z, the main ant was voiced by I couldn't tell you I've got to look it up. It's on the tip of my brain, but he sounds like Woody Allen. I'm going to tell you it's a really fucking annoying voice. His voice was super annoying and this the neurotic way that that character was played bothered me. I didn't like it. So I actually didn't like the character Z, which is the main character, right.

Josh:

That was. It's like Brooks, something Brooks.

Zach:

It was Woody Allen. Was it Woody Allen? Okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying Straight up. Sounds like Woody. It's Woody Allen, and Woody Allen always plays this fumbling, neurotic character where every word that comes out of his mouth he's like unsure of.

Josh:

It's got a huge cast list yeah, it does voice cast um, and I just hated it.

Zach:

I just don't like. I don't like woody allen. I've seen some of his movies. They're fine. Uh, I know dan akroyd was one of the voices.

Josh:

Um, yeah he was like the soldier. No, dan akroyd played chip, it was the wasp friend, his buddy, his wife got hit with the flashlight.

Zach:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. Yeah, he was like the soldier no, dan Aykroyd played Chip.

Josh:

It was the wasp friend his buddy.

Zach:

His wife got hit with the flashlight. That's right, yeah, yeah, yeah, dude, yeah. I didn't know that yeah, so that was definitely a lot more violent of the two a bug's life.

Josh:

I've seen more yeah 100%. It's a lot more not whimsical, but it's definitely it's a Pixar movie, right it is.

Zach:

Sometimes I also get Dreamworks and Pixar mixed up.

Josh:

The animation was better in A Bug's Life than it was in Ants yeah, I agree it was different.

Zach:

The style was definitely different. That's what I'm saying.

Josh:

Like the Ants was a little off-putting but there again same exact Bug, struggling the whole. Thing animated cast on both like it was a here's a non dreamworks and non disney or non pixar.

Zach:

Uh, you know, animation, uh, 3d animation movie. That kind of came and went, but it's actually not too bad. Um is um, uh, what is it? Uh, django, with johnny depp as this fucking lizard rango rango.

Josh:

Yeah, that's a good one. That's a great movie.

Zach:

It's a good one like people don't think about that one, but I've watched that several times, have you seen?

Josh:

how they shot that. Yeah, it's wild. They did the scenes in person, they just recorded them and it looked like a fucking circus. Yeah, dude, it's really cool.

Zach:

I feel like that was something that would of course that's the only voice over that he would probably do is if he actually got to act out as if he was a chameleon.

Josh:

It's a pretty good movie.

Zach:

Yeah, a fucking chameleon in the desert. Yeah, it's a pretty good one. I enjoyed that one.

Josh:

Nice name drop.

Zach:

There were some other ones that.

Josh:

I've got a list, all right, go ahead. Here's a good one that I haven't seen either one of these in a long. Actually, this one I've kind of seen. Everybody's seen these. Tombstone and Wyatt Earp came out less than a year apart.

Zach:

Oh, Tombstone.

Josh:

Yeah, tombstone, and then Wyatt Earp. Basically it's one character, but I'm not knocking either one of them. Oh yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, it's similar movies.

Zach:

Clear Winter is.

Zach:

Tombstone, I mean.

Zach:

Tombstone is a fucking classic, like one of my.

Josh:

They're both great, but yeah, everybody loves Tombstone. If you've never seen Tombstone, you need to watch it A hundred percent.

Zach:

Yeah, yeah, I didn't even really think about like a Western I mean. But yeah, a hundred percent, those two are basically the same. They're both good both good, and one of them is actually set kind of during Wyatt Earp's main career as a lawman, that's correct, and Tombstone is his retirement and where he actually became famous.

Josh:

I have another one too Infamous, I have another one too. Hit me Dante's Peak and the Coast is Toast Volcano. Volcano. That was the poster.

Zach:

That was one of the ones that the guys hit me up with Dante's Peak and Volcano.

Zach:

Volcano.

Zach:

I remember I liked them both but okay, let me put it this way oh man, dante's Peak had a better. I liked Pierce Brosnan.

Josh:

Everybody does.

Zach:

That was his 007 heyday. He's awesome Right where he's playing James Bond, and it also had Linda Hamilton right.

Josh:

Yeah.

Zach:

Which was she was great. The explosion of Dante's Peak was better because it was a more traditional volcano, but Volcano with Tommy Lee Jones, who's also awesome, had better lava Like it had the lava thing.

Josh:

You could see it when it poured through the city or the town. Yeah, when it was going through the tunnel.

Zach:

Oh man, that's hard to say. I got to go with Volcano on that one Because the scene where they had to like take down the building to create a barricade to redirect the lava into, like the, the water uh runoff to get to the ocean was fucking.

Josh:

I need to go back and watch those amazing.

Zach:

I haven't seen them in quite some time and then a scene that that fucked me up I'm sure it's probably the same one when the uh it was the um, the uh transportation like a subway dude worker or whatever somebody when they were going into the subway to rescue the people that the subway car got caught and the lava was creeping or whatever, and he was trying to carry that one dude out, the last guy, and the lava had already gone past the end of the car and so he had to jump. Fuck, you remember that? No, okay, so the dude had to jump and he had a body. He was a fireman carrying somebody right and he had a body.

Zach:

He was a fireman carrying somebody right and he had to jump and try to scale the lava. He don't make it. He lands feet first into the fucking lava and the dude is like screaming, like literally sinking, melting. But is he? Holding the dude still, and he's holding the dude and his last effort is he chucks the dude to safety, and then he goes down like the fucking Terminator in T2.

Zach:

But he can feel it All the way down, but he can feel it, and then eventually he hits like I guess, I don't know, it's like his heart or something. Passes out, and then he just yeah, and he just the power to come out. I don't think lava works that way necessarily.

Josh:

No, but it does great for the movie. But it was a great scene Okay.

Zach:

And if you were like a young kid, that would give you fucking nightmares. Speaking of fucked up scenes, so when we played, the Floor is Lava. After that, it took on a whole new meaning.

Josh:

You got to carry somebody and throw them. What was it? Rebel Cop 1. Which one was it where that dude gets hit with like that?

Zach:

acid.

Josh:

Rebel Cop, and then the car hits him and he just splatters like a fucking balloon. That scene that's a rough one. That's a rough one. Yeah, dude, you got hit me, hit me, you go yeah, you got on your list.

Zach:

Um uh, no, I can't I can't find the list.

Josh:

It's trying to drop me. I got one. This is on here too, but I don't. It's. They're very different films here's one we talked about go ahead, save that one, okay we talked about uh, olympus has fallen and white house down.

Zach:

That's on here too. Okay, I've seen both. They're both fun. Yes, they're both fun, they're both totally. Uh, olympus has fallen. I think it's a superior movie, the scene where they, those apaches, are running through the fucking streets of yes dc is the one of the coolest things ever I like and the one and it also channing tatum and Gerard Butler, gerard. Butler was also that one was rated R and he like fucking killed some people I like.

Josh:

I like the one with Gerard Butler better. Yeah, me too.

Zach:

I like Channing Tatum, but I like yes but Channing Tatum and I mean Channing Tatum and Jamie Foxx in a movie where Jamie Foxx and Enchanting Tatum it was the cornier.

Josh:

It was definitely corny. Let me look and see how they did, because it had the box office. I'm curious.

Zach:

The only thing that was cool about, I think, White House Down. That I can recall was whenever they were driving around the Beast. There was a scene with the Beast, which is the presidential car that's like fucking armored out or whatever that they call the Beast. That scene was kind of cool when it was getting hit by missiles and shit, but otherwise Olympus has Fallen is definitely the better movie. Who was the villain in White House Down? I don't remember. I think Olympus has Fallen. The villain was Aaron.

Josh:

Eckhart, he was a member of the staff or he was a member of the Secret Service or something. Yeah, there was some backward shit going on.

Zach:

He had some bad blood or something I cannot remember for the life of me. The villain in White House Down.

Josh:

So Olympus has fallen.

Zach:

And of course, Olympus has fallen, had two sequels. Aaron Eckhart was the bad, that was yeah.

Josh:

So that actually did less. White House Down made more money Interesting yeah. So Jamie Foxx, I mean that had to be Fox.

Zach:

I mean that had to be the Channing Tatum, jamie Foxx high to their stardom, yeah, but that's crazy to me. And also, morgan Freeman was the president in Olympus has Fallen. So I mean, like anytime he's the president, the movie's going to be good. You know what I'm saying? They have some interesting ones on here.

Josh:

He was also the president of Deep Impact Yep, soft-spoken. Yeah, they had a Paul Blart mall cop and Observing Report. Observing Report. It did tanked in the box office. Yeah, but it's still the better movie. It's a great movie and it caught me off guard.

Zach:

And the concept is so simple.

Josh:

It's the better movie. I remember when you and I first came out we had seen clips where they were beating, beating shit out of those kids with skateboards. But I'd never seen the movie in its entirety until after I saw that clip and I watch it and at first it was it's a slow burn. You're just like well, the haziz and sorry is great in it, yes, well, then you find out he's just like a. He couldn't pass a psyche vow to be a cop, yeah. And then him and his buddies are security guards at a mall and they're all like fucking gun nuts yeah, and they're all fucked up.

Josh:

That movie is great.

Zach:

The whole thing is he's trying to he wants to get the stalker and he's trying to, yes, the. Uh, he wants to get the flasher the flasher that's been flashing this girl that he likes the money.

Josh:

When he told that, which was anna ferris, yeah, when he told that uh psychologist that when he sees that dark cloud corner of the hill he just wants to take a 12 gauge shotgun and just fucking shoot it. It's so good, dude, dude.

Zach:

They were like all right, thanks for coming in. Yeah, he definitely failed that side.

Josh:

I remember when he said that yeah.

Zach:

Yeah, I think it was definitely, but I mean that didn't get a sequel. It bombed Paul Blart mall.

Josh:

I never saw it with Kevin James. I never saw it.

Zach:

I saw it. It was fine. I feel like Also Kevin James' Peak. It made a lot more money and then he fell off after that, but definitely, and it got a sequel. Yeah, whatever, that was a good yeah, Reserve Report is cool yeah that was basically the same movie about fucking mall security guards. Why 2009. It's crazy that Hollywood does that shit. They go through phases man. What's the most recent one that we can think of? Well, they did a combo movie, or, you know, a combo year, where it's the same concept.

Josh:

God, I feel like all we've had the last five years is superhero movies. I'm trying to think Not recent. They had Knowing in 2012.

Zach:

Actually there was two movies that Nicolas Cage did that were basically the same.

Josh:

Yeah, knowing, and Next and Next, yep.

Zach:

Where he had premonitions, he could see the future, which one is? Recent or recent future? I don't know. Dude, I can't think of one.

Josh:

I can't think of one. I'm sure we've seen them. Let's see Was.

Zach:

I don't know, were these the exact same time, contact and the Day the earth stood still no day there's still is way.

Josh:

Well, I know, I just not the original, but the one with keanu reeves, I know, but they're not anywhere close to the same time because I just watched contact uh thursday that's a great movie it's a, it is if you, because I was, I'd watch interstellar. Interstellar to me is like comfort food. For me, it's just one. Sometimes I'll go watch if it's. If there's, I can't find a movie because I have a secret thing we're from matthew mcconaughey. I can't help it.

Zach:

I saw something the other day said uh, this, uh. By this time when the movie was released up to this point, it's only been seven hours on miller's planet.

Josh:

Yep so contact, which is jody foster, matthew mcconaughey, it's got a and it's even if you're not a sci-fi person, it is like high concept it's more. It's not so much visuals and stuff, it's more like the blueprint of the whole thing, which I really like kind of like interstellar. It's not like aliens shooting lasers and all it's more scientific.

Zach:

The move, the, the draw is the mystery yes not.

Josh:

So they don't give you anything, it's just mystery interstellar is a wormhole, contact is a wormhole, so they're very similar in that respect. But no, the Day the Earth Stood Still is a remake.

Zach:

It was a black and white and they did one with Keanu Reeves, which is a good movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but for some reason I'm thinking Contact was a combo movie.

Josh:

When you brought up disaster movies earlier and people liking disasters. Now there's tons of those. There's recently in the last 10 years.

Zach:

There's Moonfall, it was 2012. Moonfall, geostorm, geostorm.

Josh:

Greenland, greenland yep, those were all either an asteroid which, by the way, 2012, the whole mind shit was stupid. But, visually one of the coolest movies.

Zach:

I think it was a Roland Emmerich movie. Yeah, it was Roland Emmerich. So Independence Day, roland Emmerich does the disaster movie. He's the disaster guy.

Josh:

Moonfall was fucking cool. I liked Moonfall, I did too.

Zach:

It did terrible.

Josh:

But, I really liked it, the whole computer thing at the end, like your conscious, I didn't like that as much with that fat dude that got killed. But like yeah, the little post-credit kind of thing, the concept of the moon being a superstructure. Yeah, fuck, yeah, it's cool.

Zach:

Which is apparently that's a real conspiracy theory going around. It's like the moon is actually a superstructure.

Josh:

It's not actually a normal celestial body as Come in close we're good. Right.

Zach:

Well, apparently I think it's drifting away. I think it's getting further away, that's fine, you know so many centimeters a year or some shit like that, or whatever. Watch out, yeah, I know. So eventually it will leave our orbit after I don't know how many fucking million years, I think when you said it.

Josh:

I think people like I like the visuals, yeah, Of a disaster. It's kind of like what if I don't want it to happen? But the whole catch on Moonfall was the moon's getting closer, You're like oh, that would be fucked up. And then you get to see it, and then they twist it with the alien-esque part of it.

Zach:

That was one of those movies that caught me off guard with when they did the flashback and that, when they did the flashback and that, when they did the flashback of like, where the moon came from is basically was a Dyson sphere.

Zach:

Yeah, essentially.

Zach:

Right To where it had, there was like a inside, there was like a little dwarf, you know white dwarf star or whatever, harness it. And a Dyson sphere is. She encapsulates the entire star and harnesses the energy of it, and it was one of many of a civilization, far-flung civilization that was super advanced, and they ended up creating this, like AI that ended up replicating itself and becoming sentient. Blah, blah, blah.

Zach:

Tale as old as time.

Josh:

Yeah, right Tale as old as time.

Zach:

And, you know, had this war between that kind of it was very insect-like, you know, like swarm-like AI versus that civilization and it basically fucked that whole civilization up and the only thing that was really that escaped was this one Dyson sphere that ended up becoming the moon and cloaking itself and the AI was dead set on destroying all life.

Josh:

They called it the. It was the dark side of the moon, Right. It was a file that they kept secret that when they found yeah exactly, that's a good dude.

Zach:

Which is when they showed that flashback, like that movie just changed for me. I was like oh fuck. And immediately I was like I want to see more of that.

Josh:

Yes, it's. I'm glad we're on this tear now because I'll I which I'll have to keep myself in check because I'll get too excited in fucking movies. But uh, I watched elevation the other day. Have you seen that? No, I keep, I keep skipping over it. Is it good? Let me tell you something. I gave it a 7 out of 10. Okay, it's short. It's like an hour and 35, hour 40.

Zach:

It's short and sweet it's. Basically, isn't it a knockoff of A Quiet Place?

Josh:

No, not really it kind of goes a different direction. It's still like people trying to survive, but it's not Because in the print and they show it in the trailer. I'm not giving anything away. Humanity gets wiped out.

Zach:

They have to stay above 8,000 feet.

Josh:

I got the concept At the line. Those things stop Right For some reason, these things for some reason. That's part of the mystery, and you kind of see how civilization has been living since then. It's not a huge jump.

Zach:

Yeah, it was like three or four years. Right, they live. Everybody has to live above that elevation and they don't you know they don't.

Josh:

The story doesn't dive so much in like what have people been doing? It's. It focuses more on and what's. I'm going to forget his name, anthony.

Zach:

Anthony.

Josh:

Mackie yeah, she's great. It's to have such a minimal cast and a really simple, predictable story. It's executed really well, it's cool, it's fun, it's quick and you know, and it's builds for potential sequels.

Zach:

Yeah.

Josh:

But then nothing lined up right now.

Zach:

But that was straight to Netflix, wasn't? It Wasn, but nothing lined up right now.

Josh:

That was straight to Netflix, wasn't it? It was a Netflix movie, wasn't it? No, it's an app. Or is it an?

Zach:

Amazon. Let me look, I've just watched it.

Josh:

But it wasn't a theatrical release. I don't think so, and I'm kind of glad I don't think I would have paid to see it in theaters per se, I don't think it's one of those.

Josh:

It's on hbo max that's where I watched it but it only had a budget of 18 mil. Yeah, like, the gun plays good, the action's great, the creatures look really cool and very terrifying not as terrifying as the angels of death or whatever they call those things in a quiet place. It doesn't look as high of a budget as like a quiet place, um, and it's not scary, it's just it's action. It's like a cool popcorn action. One-off sci-fi movie.

Zach:

See, I feel like that's the way movies are going to be going.

Josh:

It's fun, dude, and it was under two hours.

Zach:

Yeah, which is the sweet spot. I mean, if a movie, I think, the perfect movie. Some people will disagree with me.

Josh:

Some people say 90 minutes is the perfect runtime. I like a little bit longer. I like hour 45.

Zach:

Yeah, I like, I like, I like at the two hour. If you land right on two hours, for me that's perfect. Yep, I agree, you know what I mean. That gives you plenty of time to flesh out your story. But also it depends on the movie. I mean, some movies I'm like they it drug on for too long for two hours. Like a 90 minute would have been better. Yeah, it just depends on the movie. But if you're trying to world build a movie, I need two hours.

Josh:

Yeah.

Zach:

I agree Generally.

Josh:

Yeah, I mean if it's, you know, like your Lord of the Rings, your Star Wars, if it's an epic, I mean I want it to be longer so I can make watch it it's fun dude, it's on my list. It's fun. I I was pleasantly surprised because going by the trailer, I was like I don't know it it well a movie like that, like I said, a budget of 18 million, million.

Zach:

It's a, it's a. You know it's a concept movie and you know it's not. Um, it's not like it's got this incredible cast slash script and it's like gonna try to win an oscar or anything that kind of shit. And it's also not a super high budget. You know, 100 million, 120 million dollar movie. Uh, like a, like a marvel movie no movies like that is where.

Zach:

That's where we're streaming shines, yep, and where I feel like the only thing that's going to be left for theaters and you're going to pay, start paying higher and higher prices for tickets. But you'll pay it if it's, if it's good enough, is the high spectacle movies Yep, like the ones that you have to go see on a big screen, like Dune, the super high spectacle movies, right. The epics you got to go see the epics on the big screen, right. And then there'll be all this other stuff that's really cheap.

Zach:

That's, you know, rom-coms and you know, of course, there's a bajillion rom-coms and bajillion fucking dramas and romantic, all that kind of crap on all the streaming things too. But the ones that have, like the biggest stars, rom-coms and uh and comedies and stuff, they'll go to theaters because somebody you know people on the weekend that still go to the fucking theater, that aren't movie aficionados, they need something to watch. That's not a marvel movie, you know what? I mean that they can just tune out for two or three hours right so I feel like that's the only thing that's gonna be left in theaters.

Zach:

You're not gonna see stuff like like the mid-range. You're not gonna see like armageddon deep impact. You're not gonna see the run-of-the-mill action movies going forward. It's to be just big epics and then really low budget character driven movies like dramas and thrillers and romantic comedies and stuff like that. I'm not a huge Anthony With the A-list actors the.

Josh:

B-list actors are going to go to streaming. I'm not a huge Anthony Mackie guy, but this one, I think he almost shines better in this one than he even did as the Falcon. I think he just one. I think he almost shines better in this one than he even did as the Falcon. I think he just Well, I haven't seen, we haven't.

Zach:

Neither one of us has seen Captain America yet. Oh, the new one, I have not.

Josh:

I'm waiting for it to come to Disney+, but we've met that character.

Zach:

Like I know that we've.

Josh:

I've progressed with that character as far as when he was with, not when. What was the one terrible series? Him and uh falcon winter soldier yeah, he's. I actually preferred him in elevation. I did that. I think he he is just plays a dad, but like uh, I don't know, he had a lot more range. I think he was kind of.

Zach:

It was cool I think everybody's general consensus for that is that it should have been bucky oh, I 100 agree it should have been bucky, and I think it made way more sense. Yes, and what I'm seeing and the proof is in the pudding because, uh, the reception that people are giving thunderbolts is way bigger, yes, than they're giving captain america, it's not the new captain america.

Josh:

4 I don't hate the falcon character. I wanted him to stay the falcon.

Zach:

Yeah, correct exactly right, that's exactly right that's all it is yes, and it it just makes like I don't know. Know it should have been Bucky. I guess you could have had the Falcon do it for a short period, but it always should have ended up being Bucky. But here's even the broader point Is that character is never going to be the same without Chris Evans.

Zach:

No.

Zach:

They generally just need to retire some of these characters. They don't just need to pass the mantle. It's fine in a comic book, it's fine in a video game or even a cartoon series, but on a big budget theatrical release movies like this. Some of these characters just need to. They can only be played by one person. You can't pass the. They're trying to pass the mantle of Iron man to Ironheart and it looks. It was a fucking atrocious. It's awful.

Josh:

I know it's terrible. Well, they foreshadowed, if you remember and you will, in Winter Soldier. Yes, bucky was not Bucky, he was the Winter Soldier and he caught the shield, caught it and he blocked, held it, foreshadowing. I picked up on it immediately, 100%, and then later on, as it goes, that's his best friend, who already has the super soldier serum. Yes, who already has all. He is basically a Russian Captain America.

Zach:

Yeah, and they even kind of made the joke in the. You see in the trailers for the Captain America movie where Anthony Mackie's character, the Falcon, says I should have taken the serum. I was like, yeah, you should have because you don't make sense.

Josh:

Let me stay in credit, in case a nerd lists another nerd. Okay, there is a Russian, captain America, he's in Thunderbolts.

Zach:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's the.

Josh:

Red.

Zach:

Guardian.

Josh:

I'm saying that, trained by Russians, bucky was Already had the super soldier. Serum Already has all the same combative skills as Steve Rogers did. And then you picked the other. I don't understand.

Zach:

It's comic accurate and I love those movies.

Josh:

I love those movies. That's peak, but I was always kind of backseat like.

Zach:

I'm going to pick him. I get the peak Also the comic nerds are going to like. Well, it was common, accurate, it was actually. You know, he actually I don't give a shit. I don't give a fuck. These movies have diverted so much from comic lore in a lot of ways that you can't it's it's own thing.

Josh:

You can't, then you cannot go.

Zach:

Yeah, I mean that's what I'm saying, because there's things that are happening that don't physically make sense. Yes, and they're doing that with all these characters. They basically took the main characters right. That made Phase 1 through 4, what was it? 1 through 3, everything up to Endgame made it what it was, and that was Robert Downey Jr as Tony Stark, as Iron man. Right, nobody else can play Iron man. No, nobody else can put can can play iron man.

Zach:

No one else can agree you can't do it, it's not gonna happen. Uh, war machine can't fill that, even though I like don cheadle and I do like war machine he can't take, that's all. If anybody in the current film um mcu uh roster that's left, he'd be the only one, and they end up going with Riri Williams as Ironheart and it's fucking terrible.

Josh:

I think you said it best. They need to end those characters.

Zach:

They're done, they're done. You need to go to other characters. We saw the buildup climax.

Zach:

And if they can make success out of Gardens of the Galaxy, which is, I mean, the general public. They know of Iron man, captain America, spider-man, thor. Those are well-known characters. Even if you're not in the comic book world, you're at least tangentially aware of those characters. If they can make Guardians of the Galaxy, which are fucking obscure to most people, make those a six a commercial success, then you can do it with other characters. You don't have to recast and and and pass the quote mantle to other characters where they're different. You just have to start bringing in different comic book characters. I don't, I don't know what is what they have to do. It's going to be Shuri cannot play Black Panther. I don't know what. It's what they have to do. It's going to be.

Zach:

Shuri cannot play Black Panther. I'm sorry it sucked.

Josh:

It wasn't good, it was terrible. I'd rather it be a completely separate character and I liked her when she was just his sister. The tech, cool tech, very smart. I liked all that.

Zach:

She was like Q, Now granted with that.

Josh:

I will say I will say I I didn't really like the black Panther movies. I liked the character.

Zach:

I like the character Winter soldier.

Josh:

I liked it better than the film itself but that's a whole nother story.

Zach:

where they're running through the street is one of the best Well that I remember.

Zach:

I remember watching that movie, the first time when we were.

Josh:

we weren weren't neighbors yet and I called you. I paused mid-movie and called you and said this is the greatest Marvel movie I've ever seen.

Zach:

Yeah, civil War was awesome.

Josh:

No, not Civil War Winter Soldier. It's one of my top three by far yeah yeah, as far as action, choreography, fighting, the serious tone, the whole thing, but anyways. But yeah, I don't know what the deal is with. It might be an unpopular opinion and we'll see how it looks, but I wasn't really psyched when they got robert downer jr played doom uh yeah, because what's? Gonna happen. You know what we're gonna see tony stark well, it's.

Zach:

You know what exactly right. You know, you know what I'm. It's gonna remind me of. Here's what I think it's gonna be like. It's gonna be like episode seven star wars, when they killed off han Solo that they're bringing. They're bringing a character that's that we know and love and cherish, and we've seen all these movies. We've seen him as not as Victor Von Doom, but as Tony Stark.

Zach:

It's gonna be his fucking face for over 10 years, like it culminated one of the greatest you know multi-movie cinematic achievements ever in Endgame and it culminated with the ultimate sacrifice. He was the godfather of the entire thing and then he cast off that character in an ultimate sacrifice move and that should have been the end of it. And then he's going to come back as a villain and I know people say, oh, you've got to trust the process, trust Marvel. I don't. Marvel did studios and kevin foggy, and I'm just like I used to. I feel like I think it's going to be the same thing. Is is when we first had, uh, harrison ford come back as han solo in episode seven and then they fucking killed him off in the dumbest fucking way possible, yep, it was basically just a giant dick in the ass of the fans. It just was not.

Josh:

you just pissed my eye. I don't, I don't, I don't like that no, and it I feel.

Zach:

I feel like I don't care what they're gonna do with victor and look, it may be awesome, it may be cool.

Josh:

I just like why it's bad casting, just why it's bad casting, like why would you do that? That's and we'll have to do an episode two.

Zach:

You could have cast somebody to play Victor Von Doom and it could have been incredible. There's tons of casting, but everyone is going to compare it to him playing Tony.

Josh:

Stark, I will not be able to watch it, and I get that. Look at Ryan Reynolds Anytime I watch him, do anything, I see Deadpool, no matter what he's been playing Deadpool before there was Deadpool, because I went back and watched the Blade movies. When you watch Blade Trinity, that's Deadpool. He is forever the character, same with Robert Downey Jr. I'm sorry.

Zach:

And he also played.

Josh:

Deadpool in Wolverine Origins. He will always be.

Zach:

Iron man, he was.

Josh:

Deadpool when he was Van Wilder. When he walked out and took his mask off the Von Doom mask, it was Robert Downey Jr. Everybody freaked out. But I'm like, yeah, you're freaking out because you get to see Tony Stark again.

Zach:

Yes.

Josh:

You're not freaking out because he's playing Victor Von Doom, which I've heard from another acquaintance. I have another friend of mine that is a comic heavy said it is the greatest comic series. The Victor Von Von is one of the greatest comic arcs. I don't know the storylines ever, but when I saw it I was like I was disappointed.

Zach:

I'm like you could have went.

Josh:

Why, as a fan, all you're going to see is Tony Stark, and it's the same universe. You have the same actor. It's not like you see Cable and Thanos. It's not the same thing. It's not the same.

Zach:

Besides Cable and Thanos it's not the same thing, it's not the same Besides Robert Downey Jr and we're probably should wrap this up because we're coming up on hour 45. Okay, but besides Robert Downey Jr, who would you want to see like? Who comes to mind as Victor Von Doom for you? Here's one that I thought of.

Josh:

Go ahead.

Zach:

It's just because I wanted to see this actor doing a different villain than the one he ended up doing. But Mads Mikkelsen, ooh, I really like him, ooh.

Zach:

Good one, Anytime he's in something he's got this weight to his voice.

Zach:

He's very soft-spoken, but he's I don't know he's got this heaviness to his voice. Fuck, that's a good one, that's a really good one, it's very, it's a really gravity to it and I'm saying, and I think he would have been a good Victor Von Doom, but he played what was his name, Casais, and is that what it was?

Josh:

Yeah, and Dr First.

Zach:

Dr Strange. So he can't, you know. I mean he could, because of the way the multiverse thing is such a cheat.

Zach:

It really is that they can bring in Robert.

Zach:

Downey Jr, and it'd be fine.

Josh:

I don't like the cheat. At first it was cool, but now they're cheating.

Zach:

They're using it to cheat. I don't like it.

Josh:

I don't like it.

Zach:

Who would I have kept? Man Dude, that's a really good one, yeah right when I said, when I'm like Victor Von Nicholson can do it.

Josh:

I know I have a man crush on him, but I wouldn't mind seeing McConaughey as as doom, Because, if you remember so, if we're just doing, evil person but has the thing. Do you ever see the dark tower?

Zach:

Yeah, with Andrew Salva. He was the man in black.

Zach:

Here's an, here's a. I'll throw you another one in here for you to where he has the same kind of the dialogue arrogance to it is the Gentleman Okay.

Josh:

Have you seen that movie? It's another. What's his name? Richie Guy Ritchie movie. Yeah, great movie, great movie.

Zach:

I love that movie and the very end when he's having that conversation with the dude that ended up fucking him over and he's like business is business or whatever, but you involve my wife and I'm going to need my pound of flesh and all that. Like that scene.

Josh:

But he could play it. He could play it. That's what I'm saying. I have a man crush. I definitely want to meet him one day. But I could see it, you could see it, I could totally see it. Now the only thing I have to compare it to is the shitty Fantastic Four movie. Both of them are shitty.

Josh:

Yes, and the only other thing that dude Well that's what I'm going off of, because I know a little bit about the character. I'm just trying to think MCU, who would I want to see on screen as that smart playboy?

Zach:

kind of an arrogance type thing to him, but also can play a villain, and Doctor Doom ends up becoming like a godlike.

Josh:

One of the ultimate. One of the ultimate villains Scarier than Thanos Ultron, the whole thing. But I think McConaughey could probably fucking crush it. I think he could do really well, that's a good one.

Zach:

I'm not going to lie.

Josh:

That's a good one, and then Mad Milk, that would be a good one too. I'm trying to think who's the guy? Well, he's in Marvel as well. I can't pick him either. I'm already picking people that are in it. One of the Skrull.

Zach:

Yes, he played Well, he wasn't Super Skrull.

Zach:

No, he was Actually the way they did.

Zach:

Super Skrull pissed me off I know, being Emilia Clarke.

Josh:

It was terrible. It was fucking terrible More than the villain, but the adaptation that's a whole different. It was terrible, fucking Secret Wars thing that was awful.

Zach:

I was kind of stoked about that with having Nick Nick Fury doing his own, and then they shit all. They've just been bad. The Disney Plus shows have just been bad, yeah.

Josh:

I think there's only one that I like. Should we write some? We need to tell them to get rid of Dowdy and put McConaughey in there.

Zach:

Yeah, I think so. I think we need to start a petition.

Josh:

Dude.

Zach:

And Mads Mikkelsen can be the backup.

Josh:

But McConaughey I think we go for from a guy he's the bigger get, he's the bigger he would do it obviously, and he, I don't know, would he do it?

Zach:

well, he did do the. He was in the dead, he was in wolverine deadpool, he was uh, yeah, but I mean, but it was a cameo type thing, yeah, cameo, but would he? Would he lead in a, in a?

Josh:

marvel movie. The script would have to be right because and what's funny is, uh, I mean, he did the dark tower just a, yeah, just a little cool. A funny thing thing is Timothée Chalamet was told by we were just talking about Titanic. He was told by Leonardo DiCaprio to not don't do drugs and don't do superhero movies. He told him that and he's like I never have.

Zach:

He won an award. He talked about it. He's like I want to be great, I want to be one of the great ones.

Zach:

He just won the award he talked about it.

Zach:

He's like I want to be great, I want to be one of the great ones. He did say that he just won the award. He's like this isn't it, it's a stepping stone. I thank you, but I'm not there yet, which is kind of a weird thing to do in an award show. I think the dude is legit and he does want to be one of. He's amazing. His stature is the only thing that may hold him back from certain roles. Was it the King?

Josh:

Yes, that he was in with Robert.

Zach:

Pattinson.

Zach:

Yes.

Zach:

Yes, but again, he looked 12 in that movie he does. He looked 12 in every movie he's been in so far. Now when he plays Paul Atreides, that grew him up a little bit. You know this Bob Dylan where he plays portrays. Bob Dylan grew him up a little bit and so he may not be there. Maybe he'll get it.

Josh:

Who knows? You're talking about his physicality To be one of the greats, his physicality is going to preclude him from certain roles.

Zach:

Yeah, okay, you know what I'm saying he might get typecast a little bit.

Josh:

in being always this baby-faced young character, I want to see him age a bit and see if he becomes like a Daniel Day-Lewis or becomes a bigger name.

Zach:

Something that has been running through my mind I can't get it out is there was a I think it was a roast and I think it was. Wasn't there a roast of? Of? Was it DiCaprio or somebody? But Timothee Chalamet was there and it was. I think it was a roast, or maybe it was just a stand up special and it was a woman that did it.

Zach:

I think it was you're talking about Nikki Glacier, nikki Glacier.

Josh:

Adam Sandler, yes, he says saying his name is like, and then he did it to him.

Zach:

He said, if you say his name, his actual name, the way it's pronounced is a Timothee. Yeah, and so it was like it sounds like I shall love it. Yeah. Then he came up to him and then Sandler did it during this like dedication to the whatever. He was dressed up like a bum. Oh, do my day, I shall have me. Yeah, it's just so funny. Yeah, it was a roast and then an award show. Yes, yeah, adam sandler's the fucking dude. And also, uh, a little quick shout out to uh, timothy is.

Josh:

Uh, when he goes on snl, he fucking murders oh, he's great, it's great, and his sister looks pretty good too. Just sorry his sister yeah, she's in. Secret Sex Lives of College Girls on HBO.

Zach:

I wasn't aware he had a sister. We'll talk after. We'll talk after.

Josh:

I'll take a look. We'll talk after.

Zach:

Okay, and also you know the Jenner thing, like that's a weird pairing.

Josh:

Oh yeah, but I mean I get it, and we've seen worse pairings. I know I mean I get, I mean I, I get it, and we've seen worse pairings. I know I mean, look at what's his name Pete Davidson.

Zach:

That's exactly. He's like little Pete Davidson with Kim Kardashian.

Josh:

It's but they've been together a while, Like I'm whatever dude, I'm usually in the whole celebrity. Get it while you can, bro. I mean I don't know.

Zach:

She's not Well, I guess we can end it on that. Yeah, I think that's cool. Thanks to some of our listeners for some suggestions.

Josh:

Let me give a shout out to the Farrells again, because Amber's a huge supporter of the show. She posts videos. She always shares our stuff, our clips. She actually messaged me and told me she said when she listened to the last episode she was out loud talking to us Like we could hear her.

Zach:

Yeah.

Zach:

So, she loves, so she loves so she loves the show.

Josh:

Uh, I think I think the new episodes are are doing a lot. I like this direction.

Zach:

Yeah, if I'm going to pat ourselves on the back, I mean we kind of in the middle there. We got a little gross.

Josh:

Old school, it's okay, a little old school but you know it's going to happen.

Zach:

But you know, I think the renewed focus on you know.

Josh:

We thrive in movies and television.

Zach:

In movies and television pop culture, you know, I think probably a lot of our audience is not a huge anime nerds or video game nerds necessarily, but you know we're going to throw some of that in there too but I think primarily movies and TV pop culture type stuff. You know I could really go on a rant about some video games and anime too.

Josh:

We may do some episodes that are a little bit more tailored to that. Well, you brought up Star Wars, and as soon as you're like talking about the, I wouldn't mind doing an episode on just.

Zach:

Star Wars Like specifically certain like Like prequels.

Josh:

Yeah, like franchises that started strong flopped or flops came back again Like just like a friend we can do like many franchise episodes. We'll talk about one particular topic.

Zach:

Yes, yeah, um, I'm always down for that I mean we, you know we have the, the, the main pod was is one right, but you know if you guys would like to see like little 10, 15 minute little, you know breakdowns or opinions of uh movies or genres, or you know entire franchises or whatever, or or you know a top 10 list, or or you know, if this you know, would you rather whatever you want to want to hear about, uh have us rant about. You know, hit us on socials, let us know what you kind of want to see.

Josh:

We may do some little stuff like that. I did message some podcasts that started following us to do collabs.

Zach:

Yeah, actually, there is a collaboration that a friend of mine I might. We're going to coordinate with her. I haven't mentioned this to you yet, so mention it live yet. So, okay, mentioned to it live is uh, she um, she does a um, uh doing the influencer thing. Yeah, uh, where she basically tries different things that people bring her products and, yeah, food and I know you're talking whatever she's trying.

Josh:

Yeah, it's good, kylie, but it's good, it's. It's actually really good. It suits her really well. It very well because, I told. I told kylie straight up. I said she's the same person, she's always 100 that is not an absolute saint.

Zach:

I said she is the one of the best people I know yes and it's not fake I've known her for a long time genuinely a good person yes, she's great, yeah, she's uh, yeah and she's um super nice, but you know not um not like a fuddy day, like she's fun no, it's and she's got a great sense of humor. She gets the jokes, but she's good job G she's great. Yeah, talking about weird pairings, I tell them that all the time I was like how the yeah lock it down, he knew.

Zach:

I don't know what he I don't know. I wasn't really friends with him when that was going down, so I don't know what we should ask. So I want to have her on. We'll probably do like a call in where she calls in Dude, I'm right. But yeah, check out her on Instagram. Is Bethany tried it? And also, if you've got anything that she you would like to see her try, then let her know.

Josh:

Steve over here licking his butthole. Anyways, there's some shows that some pod pod fellow potters that I'm thinking about actually have on a call, and one of them is very movie-specific old horror movies, classic films. It's a solo show but does collabs, and I found two people that do the same genre as we do, so I may see if we can do a call-in and just hash it out like a small call or whatever and kind of interject that.

Zach:

I'm down with that. That'd be fun. Yeah, dude, Also follow us on. We're kind of streaming on Twitch here and there.

Josh:

We don't have a set schedule. I will say not to cut you off, because I just did there. I haven't recorded in about a week I'm still trying to.

Zach:

We're working out the technicals. I think I've almost got it down. It's a little To me.

Josh:

It's a little more effort. It takes a little more effort. Yeah, and we've been doing this longer, so this to me feels easy.

Zach:

Well, we've put some investment into getting this set up to how we like it and it's where it sounds good and can easily produce. The streaming is actually really super easy, but to get it to where we want it is actually taking a little bit.

Josh:

Yeah, it's difficult.

Zach:

Like one person would be fine, but we're trying to collaborate together and it's a little weird. So we're trying to work that out, but we probably once we get that kind of worked out.

Josh:

Right now we're just kind of streaming whenever we feel like it, but you can find us on Twitch. We've had people come on. It's fun.

Zach:

But once we kind of get it worked out on how we want it to look like on streaming, then we'll have probably a more consistent schedule. Oh my God, I saw that too. I don't see that thing very often. He had it out.

Josh:

He had it out All right, so just leave that as a mystery Cat pick. Steve's wiener was out for a minute.

Zach:

But we'll see y'all next week. All right, see y'all.

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