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#74 - Hot Privilege
We’re back with Episode 74 of the Infinite Weekend Podcast! This time, we dive into a wild mix of movies, TV, video games, and anime—think Solo Leveling, Kraven, and Edge of Seventeen—with our usual dose of dick humor and adulting gripes. We kick things off with what we liked and hated this week, from fast-paced anime dubs to lackluster superhero flicks, then spiral into tangents about social media detoxes, hot girl privilege, and why money does buy happiness (sorry, haters). We’re unfiltered, all over the place, and loving every minute of it—join us for the ride!
• Discussing the week's entertainment picks - Solo Leveling's epic S-Rank battle episode gets high praise
• Debating the merits of Kraven's standalone movie and why it might have worked better as a supporting character
• Exploring the apparent death of high school movies with Edge of 17 and Euphoria filling the void
• Analyzing why certain genres resonate differently with each host - Josh's specific aversion to traditional zombies
• Deep dive into Taylor Sheridan's Yellowstone universe and what makes 1883 and 1923 compelling television
• Examining "hot privilege" and the different standards society applies based on appearance
• Critiquing influencer morning routines and the mythology around success habits
• Discussing the mental health impacts of social media comparison and the value of periodic digital detox
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All right, we're back. Episode 74, Infinite Weekend Podcast Zach and Josh. We're going to talk about God knows what. You just can't let the wind take us.
Zach:You know, mostly movies, tv, video games, pop culture type stuff With a little dick humor in there, a little adulting. Yeah, you know how it is Right, Things that piss us off, which I guess we're going to make this like a staple of the episode of the show. But we're going to kind of start off at the top with things we liked, things we watched this week, one thing we hated or didn't like. I don't always hate everything that I watch. I try not to find things that I hate to watch.
Josh:And then one thing we liked If it's got terrible reviews or somebody said it was really terrible, I'll go in just to see if it really is, see if it's that bad I see. I see people are full of shit.
Zach:I think, uh, I think I'm the other way around. I'm like, uh, I don't want to watch. I'm not going to go watch it to find out if it's as bad as everybody says it is. That's just not me. I will, but you will, it's not me, I mean.
Josh:I don't want to waste my time. It's terrible. If it's shitty within like 30 minutes, I'll pull out. I'm out.
Zach:But sometimes I'll stick it out just to see, do you do this I, if I'm trying to find something to watch, like I guess you just you'll just watch something that you know, like you'll watch a lot of old school stuff, or you'll watch something that probably sucks and you won't find out if it's that bad. Whatever. I'm so like I'm trying to every time I I go into streaming apps to try to find something. I'm always trying to find like the best thing that I could possibly watch at that moment. Does that make sense? And so I'll spend a fucking hour going through all the apps trying to find something.
Josh:I'm like oh, that's pretty good, but I think I can find something better. You mean like an in-the-moment kind of thing.
Zach:Yeah, like something that's got a tickle, that's where I'll waste time and then eventually I get to a point where I'm just like you know an hour's a little long there and you're just like I guess I'm just not gonna watch anything.
Josh:It's kind of like you find the right. You're trying to write find the right good video to, yeah right, it's like trying to find the right porno and you're looking at 30 minutes later and I don't even want to draw anyone, you already lean up. You're like I'm not even this isn't. I don't even want to do this anymore I don't think I actually wanted to do this. You know, beginning exactly. It's just like that.
Zach:You're on page, you know 187 and you're just like well, this is not at this point.
Josh:You're just checking out names. You're like I'm not even right. Well, I'm here anymore yeah, yeah, right exactly yeah, no, I mean there's there's times that I look like it's got to be something for that particular moment, or I'll start one like now this isn't hit right and I'll turn it off because the next one I'm like I don't know if I want to watch this I try to I'll have like a small little like bag of films or shows that are comfort food.
Josh:They'll just put on Forrest Gump or any of those type of films. And sometimes I'll start those and be like, yeah, I don't need this, I'm all right. I put on Happy Gilmore the other day just to have in the background.
Zach:Yeah, and sometimes. Well see, I just don't do that a lot anymore. I used to have whenever live TV was a thing.
Josh:I just don't know anybody that watches live TV anymore. You know what I mean. Besides sports, we had an old cable box that just got taken out a couple days ago.
Zach:It had live TV on it.
Josh:It's all medical commercials.
Zach:It's awful, it's just all just commercials and just a bunch of garbage like network TV crap you don't care to watch or reruns a mess, but I guess whenever live TV was in its heyday, yeah, I could just have something in the background.
Josh:You get sucked into watching a movie that you've seen 100 times just because it's on and, if you notice it, instead of it being a runtime of an hour 45, because of the commercials, it's three hours.
Zach:Yeah, exactly right, exactly right. So because of the commercials it's three hours. Yeah, exactly right, exactly right. So now I guess that's an interesting change I now just kind of realized is that there's movies that you've seen 100 times, because they've really been on 100 times, and every time they're on, you watch them Like. Forrest Gump is one of those that you just mentioned so if it's like Shawshank Redemption.
Zach:If it's on, I'm watching it. You know what I mean, but now I have to literally go seek it out, yeah, so I'm watching those types of movies less, and less.
Josh:Yep Real Goods is a good app for that, like R-E-E-L.
Zach:It's a hub where you can search and it would put in what you're subscribed to, but you're still searching for something. You are, but it's a little faster.
Josh:It's narrowed down quicker, yeah and I tend to.
Zach:If I'm doing something else, I don't generally have the TV on, just like in the background, yeah you know. So it's not like I'm doing something else. I'm working on my phone or cleaning the house, whatever, and I got like the TV on and then I just like catch something. I just don't the TV's off unless I'm committed to watching something on the TV.
Zach:You know what I mean. So that's just how I had a realization. I wonder if that's. You know these movies that used to be you know something you'd see several times. But I mean there are people that I know that they'll re-watch, like the Office, every year or something.
Josh:Yeah, we were like that for a while, I mean, we did every, you know what I mean Every year the Friends.
Zach:The Office Stuff like that.
Josh:Because there's not really anything else that bites quite like those shows did yeah. And then, of course, the nostalgic part of it kind of makes you I don't know. It feels like a home I don't know there's a comfort to it.
Zach:Well, I guess we could talk about things. Let's do the um things. We watched this week. One thing we liked, one thing we didn't. Um, I guess, uh, I'll start um, and I kind of going back and forth, I didn't really watch anything. I mean, I didn't really watch anything that was actually great, besides stuff that we've all right solo leveling. I love that, love that anime.
Josh:It's fantastic, so that would probably be my one thing.
Zach:and they finally the part where I'm at, because I started watching the dub and so I've got to stick with the dub. I can't switch back and forth to the Japanese, and also I hate reading subtitles because I feel like it takes away from watching the action, especially a fast-paced anime like that.
Zach:You can't turn away, you can't look away Because you'll miss it, you'll miss shit. So, and you know, I want to get the full um experience of the. You know the dialogue and the sound and the and the visuals and everything. So I I've got to watch it and be able to hear it.
Zach:Yeah, if I don't know what the fuck they're saying, then I may lose some things you know, and so I like to get the full experience when I'm watching an anime or anything, and so I don't. I generally don't like to read anything in subtitles. Now, there are some movies out there that I would watch or TV shows Pan's Labyrinth, yeah but they're not like super fast-paced. It's not like you're going to miss anything by reading subtitles necessarily. You know what I mean. Yeah, but things that are like super fast-paced, like a lot of animes are, you just can't do it. And I know there's a bunch of purists out there be like, oh you gotta watch the japanese.
Josh:like fuck you I don't speak japanese. I don't speak japanese, I can't. I don't know if I, if I look away, contrary to popular opinion, I don't speak japanese, but you're not. Yeah, right if you. If I look away and I miss a dialogue, if I miss and I'm like, well, fuck, I don't know what I gotta when they're screaming and fighting. I don't care, because it sounds cool, right? Yeah, yeah, that's fine. But if there's like important conversations happening I have.
Zach:If I don't read it, dude, I'm fuck we we joked about that last time we were gaming with the boys. We were like there's, there's two voices in all japanese. Yeah, there's two voices, at least for the, the, the male characters, or maybe you could say, I don't know, the female too. There's, but for the male characters there's two voices. It's either like high paced sounds, like he's 12, whatever, and then there's that was crunk it's true, though.
Josh:It's true though and the females have theirs, and then high pitched, which?
Zach:you know, the low level voice for the female character sounds like they're trying to seduce you, which the entire Pretty much is like the seductress-like voice. And then the other ones they sound like they're Pikachu.
Josh:I'm pretty sure every anime is made by a male.
Zach:Probably.
Josh:Because the females and even the dudes, everyone looks absolutely incredible.
Zach:Yes, even the women that are in anime that probably make anime are actually horned up 12-year-old boys on that side.
Josh:I don't know, dude, because all the female proportions are like perfect. Yes.
Zach:They know how to draw some titties, okay, yeah.
Josh:I mean, there's even anime you can look up. There's animes that are emphasized on that. Yeah, Body movement, the whole thing, dude bouncing, it's like that Theo Vaughn little clip where he's talking about.
Zach:He says you know they didn't have. He's talking about how they didn't have porn growing up, whatever, but they had this kid that he could draw a pussy. Yeah, he could draw it and he was like he charged you $4. And then he's like $4?. And Joe Rose was like $4?. He's like you pay $8.
Josh:I love Theo Vaughn so much. He just had Adam. Is it Adam Levine?
Zach:Is that comedian's name Levine, the one that does? He was in Workaholics Workaholics, yeah, he was just on and those two are ridiculous. Oh yeah.
Josh:I love that. Yeah, theo's a cool dude man.
Zach:Oh, yeah, yep.
Zach:But anyway, yeah, so the thing I liked was solo leveling the episode specifically.
Zach:like I said, I'm on the dub, so I'm like two episodes behind, like everybody else, two or three, and of course, I don't read the manga either, so I'm like the manga is probably already. However, many?
Josh:Is it manga or manga? I've heard manga.
Zach:I've heard manga.
Josh:I think you have to say it like that who gives a shit? It's manga. You have to say it like that Comic book.
Zach:Okay, thank you.
Zach:That's what it is that you read backwards apparently.
Josh:I have some. It sucks, you have to get used to it. It's odd, I have Demon Slayer.
Zach:Yeah, it's odd, you read it backwards and also like right to left.
Josh:It gives you little instructions in the beginning.
Zach:I'm like, put it the other way, yeah right, this is like a flex to make us look stupid when we get it, I get it. I guess that's how they read Japanese, I don't know, Fuck. But um, um, what's something you didn't like. But anyway, what I was saying, the episode I watched was, whenever the it was the, the S ranks were fighting the fucking episode. So I would say that I'm gonna make that my pick for thing, uh, thing that I like this week, that I watched, thing that I did not like. I'm actually gonna do it kind of a kind of a twofer, because I don't want to talk about one, but since I did one as an anime that I liked, the one that I didn't like, uh, and I just started it this week because it was on it's, you know, one of the most popular ones. It's like on simulcast right now and so not everybody's talking about it, but it's up there. It's a popular one called Shangri-La Frontier and it's.
Zach:Never heard of it. Don't like it. It's boring.
Zach:Okay, it's weird. It's basic premise is it's you know, dude's playing a VR game, but he's used to usually playing like trashy games and so he's like good at like shit games, I guess, and this is. He finally ends up playing like a triple A title and it's like so much better and he's just like smoking. He's just playing through it and that's basically. It's quirky, it's weird, it's kind of comedy-esque, but there's no real stakes to it, because you're just basically watching a guy play a VR game.
Josh:Yeah, man.
Zach:And it's not like other ones like I've watched, like Sword Art Online is one that you actually, when they went in to play it, like the designer of the game like made it to where you couldn't get out and if you got killed in the game then the headset would like kill you. That seems to be a popular genre, like shit, like that it's called. The popular genre is called Isakai, I think is what it's called, but it's basically like a person that either dies or gets transported dies and reincarnated or gets transported to another world Like Konosuba, yes, and that guy died.
Josh:He got to a video game world Pretty much, and so that's.
Zach:That's a whole genre Over Overlord. There's a bajillion of them and this is basically one of those, but they don't get sucked into it. You're just watching normal people play a game. It's just weird. I'm not into it. It was kind of sucky. I didn't like it. So I'll make that my anime. But my real thing I watched that I did not like was Kraven. I told you it was shitty. I don't think it was, I'll be honest.
Josh:I didn't give it a, I said what I had said, I think.
Zach:I enjoyed it more than Electric State. I'll be honest, I just could not get into Electric State. I knew you wouldn't. I knew as soon as.
Josh:I started it. I was like he's going to hate this I knew.
Zach:But Kraven, I mean I could take it for what it was. It was a B C rated. It was like a superhero movie that they made before MCU came out.
Josh:It was better than Morbius, better than Morbius, but it's not as bad as Green Lantern. It wasn't as good as Venom.
Zach:It was just kind of there. The plot didn't make a whole lot of sense. I wasn't really sure what know what was happening with the, with rhino and, and obviously there's a you know an issue with craven and his dad and the, the brother, little brother, and it was just. It was a very generic I would.
Josh:I would rather story been craven just be a supporting character in another marvel movie, something like that behind the scenes kind of thing yes, um, but as far as, like, I think you're right the action set pieces were head cool. It was cool the way he fought.
Zach:I do like Aaron Taylor Johnson. There was nothing wrong with his performance really, I think he. I think obviously the script and the dialogue worked well, correct. I didn't understand why the fuck they even had the lawyer chick in there.
Josh:She served no purpose whatsoever she's an actual character in Marvel that aids him. She served no purpose In that. No, in the comics obviously, yes, she would. She was cool. She was like a voodoo priestess in the comics, sure.
Zach:Besides giving him the vial, whatever anybody could have done that In the film there's no In the movie.
Zach:after initially giving him the serum when he got attacked by the lion or whatever and saved his life, after that time jumps 16 years later. She was a lawyer and she was trying to throw a bunch of bad guys in jail and he was just basically trying to kill them and he was like I got this list. And she was like no, I can't do that, I'm not going to help you. But then she helps him in the end, but she doesn't. She just basically her, she only served. The only reason she was there, from what I can understand in the script or the plot, was to give him the the serum the first time and then the second time she gave it to him again yeah, otherwise she was completely I don't know dude, I think they were just like grabbing Just grabbing
Zach:for stuff Pretty much.
Zach:I think they just did not. I don't know. They did not know where to go with that. I think you're right. The character Craven would have been better served as not the main focus of the movie, but anti-hero in another movie. Correct, I agree, agreed, yeah, like they really should have just brought him along in Spider-Man. You didn't need to have a separate movie. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, whatever, but otherwise, you know it's not terrible. If I had to give it a rating, I'd give it a six.
Josh:That's what I gave it. I gave it a five and a half to six was my range.
Zach:So yeah, right there, you know I wasn't bored to tears.
Josh:It's doing really well on streaming. Yeah, like audiences, it's got a great audience score.
Zach:Yeah, it's not a movie for theaters, which they're all struggling anyway, but yes, if it came out like direct to Disney Plus or Netflix or whatever the fuck.
Josh:Yeah, you also don't have to be invested in any other marvel substance to know to know anything exactly, right, so so that for what it is.
Zach:Uh, it was enjoyable. Yeah, it's a popcorn flick. Yeah, but it was you know, something I you know I'll say I didn't like because it wasn't that great yeah, well, anything under anything near five and over six is not great and I guess I think that's kind of my skills like if it's uh, if it's under a seven, and then I quote, didn't like it.
Josh:That's how I do it, but if it's over a 7, then I did like it Right. I'm pretty rare for me to give a 10. That's got to be like yeah, I'm like you. Very few movies get the 10. If it's lower than a 6, I'm like.
Zach:And also I don't typically pick things that I absolutely hate, that are like you know. Oh okay, I think I'll probably like this Very few times does a movie surprise me where it's worse than I thought it was going to be.
Josh:Yeah.
Zach:Well, here's a recent exception Rebel Moon. I was expecting that to be serviceable. I thought it was going to be a lot like what was the other Zack Snyder movie that kind of critics hated, but we like.
Josh:Oh you're talking about. It's got the hot chicks in it fighting. I just started watching that again two weeks ago. God dang it my brain. Hold on, hold on. Just let it settle for a minute. Let it simmer, just give it one sec, let it rest. Sucker Punch, sucker Punch.
Zach:Thank you Got it. It's a good movie, right. So I thought it was going to be kind of like in that kind of realm to where it was crazy action, highly stylized, you know, really world building, blah, blah, blah, that kind of stuff, but kind of ridiculous. It was just bad, bad.
Josh:Rebel Moon is shit. Rebel Moon was awful. I gave it a three. It was an awful movie. Awful Part one and two together.
Zach:Both of them they were. I don't know which one was worse, one or two, I think they're equally both as shitty Probably two.
Josh:I think two is probably worse. I hated it. I don't know.
Zach:The only thing that two had a leg up on was they didn't have Charlie Hunnam in it.
Josh:Well, I like Charlie Hunnam in the beginning, but he's terrible.
Zach:I liked him for a little bit.
Josh:And then he yeah, I don't know, dude, I hate that movie, I hate that fucking movie.
Zach:So that's an exception where.
Josh:I watch something going in like, oh, this is probably going to be fun, but it was terrible. It's worse than Green Lantern Green.
Zach:Lantern is one of those where you're like oh, I saw that in theaters. Yeah, it's like, oh, this is going to be cool. But then whenever an old dude has the big head and he's like, well, they brought him back. Yeah, I know.
Josh:And apparently he's awesome. Apparently he's awesome, he looks, I've seen him. I've seen set stills and stuff.
Zach:In what he's in the new.
Josh:Hulk, or the new, excuse me, the new Captain America movie? No movie, no different. That's a different character. Oh, this is dc. Yeah, different character, but they, but they, basically, they, basically.
Zach:That's one of them, that's one like well, we're not going to copy you, but similar abilities okay, which I mean you know marvel and dc been doing that to each other for?
Josh:yeah, because that's that's the dude that that shit leaked in when he was helping the abominable. Okay, yeah, that was from the, the edward norton sorry nerds, sorry, I don't fucking edward norton me, edward Norton, edward Norton Hulk.
Zach:Yeah, okay, he was in that one and you remember he had some of that shit drip on his head. What was that dude? Parallax was the fucking shit monster and it just looked terrible.
Josh:Which I will say universally, because I went on some Reddit and looked about how shitty that movie is. It has one of the dopest transformations at the end when dude takes the yellow ring. What's that guy's name he takes? He was like all end, all be all. Leader of the Lanterns.
Zach:Oh, and then he puts, not Sinestro. Not Sinestro, that's fucking you know, that's a, it's something, it's something close to that. Sinestro's in the. That's the, that's the dude from GI.
Josh:Joe, I always forget. I always forget that I have a fucking internet.
Zach:Yeah, I know, hold on Transformation.
Josh:No, he puts on the yellow, the yellow ring. That was the whole thing with Parthas. It was another lantern that took the yellow Yep yeah.
Zach:Yeah, he's a. It was. What was that guy's name? Strong, not Marcus Strong, yeah.
Josh:Sinestro, I was right, it Not Marcus.
Zach:Strong. Yeah, it's Sinestro.
Josh:I was right, it is Sinestro. Yeah, I was right. Why am I thinking that I'm so smart?
Zach:Oh, it's. Destro is the dude from GI Joe.
Josh:Deathstroke. Is that what you just said?
Zach:Destro, oh Destro. Yes, it is. They're all too similar. Fuck man yeah okay, Sinestro. No, I'm done with that he had like a transformation.
Josh:When he put the yellow ring on his suit changed.
Zach:That whole bit was awesome.
Josh:And then the whole rest of the movie was fucking terrible, but that was a really cool little bit Because that character was really. I liked him, yeah, but that movie was shit though. But anyways, I'm getting off that it was terrible.
Zach:But that's an example, one where you go into it. You're thinking like, oh, this is going to be like Fantastic Four, you know from the early 2000s. You know it's like oh, this is going to be cool.
Zach:It's going to be like that and it ended up being worse.
Zach:It was terrible, very few times do I go and watch a movie and it's actually worse than I thought it was going to be. You know, because I have good taste. I mean, I guess it's my fucking turn. I guess it's my turn now, but yeah, so All right, dang bro, get in there.
Josh:This better be fucking good. It's not. No, I'm just picking. You can keep adding, no go ahead.
Zach:No, that's it. No, really, that was my. You know we went off on a tangent but that was my two. Thing I didn't like was I kind of did a twofer. You know the Shangri-La twofers are fine and Craven and thing I did was a little informative.
Josh:Solo leveling I never heard of that show whatever episode it was. I'm gonna do that. When you started with something you liked, right, yeah, I'm gonna start with something I didn't like, okay, so I it's kind of like a I gave it the same you did. Like it's an older movie, it's from 1986. You ever seen Troll Pieces? Okay, so I went back and watched that. I've been on this tear lately about older, older movies.
Zach:I don't know why.
Josh:Probably because there's nothing really like substantial out right now that.
Zach:I'm super psyched about this.
Josh:One's supposed to be pretty good, though, with some good shit um so I went back and watched a few like okay, here's what I didn't like critters, they're seeing critters. Oh yeah, it's fucking terrible. Yeah, I can, I can respect some of the quirkiness of it for its time and like some of the the 80s vibe of it, but it is a terrible movie and I've never seen it all the way through. It's fucking terrible. These little dudes talk, these little like fur critters, oh yeah, and they send in the bounty hunters to come after them that have like no face but then like morph their face on the spot. It's fucking cool, um, but no, it's.
Zach:It's not good for for that era so that's what you didn't like, that's what I didn't like.
Josh:Yeah, I didn't because I was bouncing around, because I watched a documentary on movie monsters, like how they were created, like the whole, like all the big time movies from the Gremlins it was all about creature design Gremlins, critters, hellboy, all those movies. It was like well, that's where I pulled some movies from to go watch, because I was like, well, if I can remember Critters, let me check that out. There's like four of them. Yeah, it's not good, I'm not gonna go back and watch the others.
Zach:Um, it's pretty, is back in the 80s, especially like uh, one of those gremlins is better, one of those. Uh, I don't know, I don't even can you classify it as horror, because it's not even. It's like campy horror, right yeah, it's like a b those campy horror movies in the eighties, like, were any of them good?
Josh:Like you know, really uh you know, like I couldn't get into the Friday the 13th, shit I couldn't get into the point of those movies are that they are bad.
Zach:You know what I mean.
Josh:Yeah, so critters is from 86.
Zach:It's and then there's critters too.
Josh:Before my, before my time. But something I did watch that I did like was Creepshow you ever watch.
Zach:Creepshow Stephen King. No, I am not a huge, I'll put this out here Not the biggest Stephen King guy.
Josh:I like Stephen King, he's got some stuff.
Zach:He's got some things that are good. Obviously, you know prolific writer but I love it, but Creepshow 2. He's also. He's like Tim Burton to me he's hit or miss. Well, he doesn't he doesn't direct, true, but I'm saying just his stories in general that are trans over to film, like the yes and the thing when they get trans, like maybe they're better as books and you know me, I don't really read fiction.
Josh:Yeah.
Zach:That's what. Yeah, so you know, obviously probably better. As books man, everybody says, oh, the book's so much better, you know, whatever, jerk off, um. But uh, when they translate over to movies, I just don't. I don't, they're, they're 50, 50, they're hit or miss for me. Yeah, like the dark tower was weird.
Josh:Well, that was, yeah, I don't know what they, but then shining is fucking awesome yeah, sorry, I was about to get on a tear about the dark. I, like you know, what I mean, I like Stephen King books. It fucking great.
Zach:Yeah, you know what I mean. So he's hit or miss for me.
Josh:You're like triggering me, I know, cause I love all. Let's do an hour of that.
Zach:Cause I watched that I've watched too much and they rename the podcast Zach Shits on Things Josh Likes. Yeah, and it would be great.
Josh:That's what sucks about. The Dark Tower is like it's two books. It's the first one and second one.
Zach:We should make that a segment.
Josh:You could do it. Yeah, I mean, people listen to the show. They know that I shit on stuff. You're like I fucking hate it. I'm I try to convince you and you're like, no, yeah, still fucking hate it.
Zach:Here's all the reasons why you're wrong.
Josh:I hate napping. That was one of our things, yeah, so it's fine, yeah that's true. Uh, I forgot completely what I was saying. Oh things, I like things.
Zach:Yeah yeah, that's just old school, you did what you didn't like, like what you watched this week that you liked.
Josh:Cause you just triggered, I watched. I went back and watched the nineties uh it movie.
Zach:Okay so the straight.
Josh:It was the TV movie. Yeah, it came out. It was split on two VHS tapes. I went back and watched it and it's one of those two, like you said earlier, where you look for a movie like to fall back on If you're like at the moment. So I'm just gonna put something on while I look, and I just fell onto that and I watched the whole thing with tim curry. Yeah, dude, oh it's, it's, I don't know, man, like I remember watching it as a kid. It was a garrett's house first time I ever watched it. He had the two split vhs and I watched it and I was like there's something about this, it's like.
Josh:And then two years ago I actually read the book, which is fucking crazy. I read it then audiobooked it as well, but it's like 41 hours of an audiobook. It's why I think he was just high during the every time he writes a book, because some of the shit he puts like when you watch the movie you're just like this is out of someone's fucking nightmare. The whole being the entity of the whole thing, is just nuts. And then the, of course, I like the other ones where bill scarred came in and plays Pennywise Well, and then Pennywise, that is, a creature from the same dimension as the Dark Tower.
Josh:Yeah, so Derry Maine is featured in a lot of his books. But yeah, it's all the same realm. You can really get on terror. I've done it before for hours. He creates the world-building part. It's really cool. That's something I watched, I really liked. I enjoyed it a lot. There's nothing really new out. I'll catch up on Soul Leveling season finale tomorrow and talk about it next week and then you can get a chance yeah or we can wait it comes out on the dub, but no, that's that's all I really need when we do that, probably need to wait until a couple weeks for want to be able to like both.
Zach:Yeah, cause it's really get into it.
Josh:Um, that's what I watched I liked, other than that. Like there's nothing really severance is over. Um, I've just been like I'll take you know fine stuff. Like I've been really hardcore on Tubi. Do you have Tubi? So I didn't know it. But Tubi is owned by Fox. It is. You would think it's independent, but I didn't know it, because one night I got bored and I was like who owns this? And it pulled it. And Fox owns Tubi. They bought it for $400 million years ago. I think it was 2013 or 14. They bought it. I might be wrong, so if only the fact checks me. Fuck you, yeah, but didn't Disney buy Fox? I don't know how true that is.
Zach:I don't know how true that is, because what I found out was is that someone offered to buy Tubi from Fox for like $2 billion and they said, no, well, it could be like where Disney will buy and Disney does. Before, when they bought, I think when they bought ABC. There's like or actually I think it was when they bought Fox, since they have ESPN, fox Sports broke off and it's not part of that, it's their own thing or something like that.
Josh:I don't know all the fucking merger and acquisition details.
Zach:But you know what I mean.
Zach:Disney would make sense for them to own ESPN and Fox Sports.
Zach:Yeah, of course.
Zach:When they bought Fox, uppercase Fox Fox.
Josh:Sports didn't come with it. But if you don't have Tubi, you should get it. It's free. It does have ads. You cannot get a premium, it's just it looks. And you can also do a traditional guide. You can do live TV Like I get on because I'm 100 and I have stimulation in the background. I'll put on like the Johnny Carson show and it's on 24-7 in the background yeah dude yeah.
Zach:Laugh all you want. You're not 100 because you need to watch something on the old stations.
Josh:You're 100 because you're watching Johnny Carson. I watched Johnny Carson and then Three Stooges was on there too, but I'll have Johnny Carson in the background because I like the old actor interviews, because he's like the dude, like the late night dude at the time. Yeah, he's OG and it's funny to go back and watch episodes like 76, 77.
Josh:The jokes still hit. Some of it's pretty funny, but it's weird seeing what's happening during that time in the world and the jokes make you like that wasn't that funny. And then you have to look up and be like, oh, that's kind of fucked up. But they also have like. The mecca for me was they have Mystery Science Theater 3000 channel. It fucking streams all day. And then, because I love that show, and then I found out on YouTube has its own channel and they'll live stream the movies and stuff all day, so I'll have that on the background for hours. Yeah, I fucking love that show. If you've never watched it, you guys have to, Because if the premise is just they, it's got like. It was a comedian that wrote it and created the show and it started really rough in the beginning but we picked up some pace. I think it was on for like 13 seasons and it kind of fizzled. They kind of lost. Now they do like a Patreon, try to get funding to keep it going, to bring it back.
Zach:But yeah, it's a dude. That's like it's basically the two old dude Muppets.
Josh:Well, it's two Muppets and a dude that he gets, but he's out to watch a movie yeah, and they get captured and they're like hey, we're gonna send you shitty movies and monitor your brain, like it's got a whole intro song and then it's yeah, they come into an old, shitty either black and white or old movies that are terrible and there's little like front row seats at a theater and you see them and they just. Netflix did two seasons of an updated version of it with Pat Oswald and another guy that were in it too, and I recommend anyone watching it. It's one of my favorite shows, tubi's great.
Zach:I've never really sat down and really watched a whole episode of Mystery Science Theater. It's cool.
Josh:Yeah, Tubi is, I guess I don't know. We're on there a lot, I'm on there a lot. It's got all kinds of shows how it's got all kinds of show how it's made antiques roadshows.
Zach:We watch that a lot because I don't even know if I can handle another streaming channel. Yeah, I know, but like there's just I just told you like I'll, if I can't find the perfect thing, don't get it because there's so much shit.
Josh:It has more content than netflix and it's all free. They have like all the 90s stuff, all those old movies I was talking about. They got shit. I'll like be just like you do and I'll be like that looks kind of fucked up and I'll put that on Like. One of them was from the 90s, some girl, it was about a pet store that had alien pets. Okay, let me pull it up, because maybe you've seen it, because I had a list of just random shit to watch so I could either talk shit about it or bring it up. You don't need this app. Don't do this. No, it'd be too much.
Josh:Do you remember Dragon World, the legend continues. You remember?
Zach:that shit. Dragon World Let me see it's doing just the title stuff right now. Give me a good screenshot. Here you go.
Josh:We do not own this, by the way, so don't get us, it's not copyright.
Zach:That's such a weird. Did you hear that Promise to take care of it?
Zach:Nah, dude, I don't recognize this shit at all. Look how excited that kid.
Josh:Look at this freak.
Zach:Oh wait, hold up, I think I do. We've all seen this dude.
Josh:Look how excited that kid is. Look at this freak. Oh wait, Hold up. I think I do.
Zach:We've all seen this dude.
Zach:Look at this fucking guy. Yes, hold up, it's a CG dragon right there. Yes, right. Well, no, it's a costume. I just looked at him so far away oh you're fine, no, keep it up to. I just looked so far away oh you're fine. No, keep it up to the mic so people can hear. I'm pretty sure you've seen this Dragon. World I've seen this I'm pretty sure.
Zach:Dude, this is like in the far recesses of my mind. Yeah, dude.
Zach:That I probably saw one time and then I haven't yeah when he was like dancing around in the fucking Welcome. In the meadow with that fucking dragon thing.
Josh:I like how he? Do you hear what he said, though he was like he promised to take care of it, like why would he not take care of it? I know, I think when you see those fucking movies where the kid gets upset, I don't know how to do this, like if someone brought me some clips of that post on the page don't worry, no problem. Like if somebody brought me a fucking dragon, I would take. Why would I not?
Zach:take care of it. What I mean, I don't know.
Josh:Now I'm curious and there's this shit where the fuck did the dragon come from? Pet shop? Yes, okay, disguised aliens set up a pet shop in a dusty arizona town. I've I remember that one.
Zach:Here's one that was also about aliens. That's a little obscure movie. Batteries Not Included. Oh, it's a great movie.
Josh:Fucking great yeah dude.
Zach:The aliens are like actually little flying saucers. What's that? Little robots, what's that? Was it Short Circuit? Was the one Short Circuit?
Josh:Johnny Five, I cried in it.
Zach:I call my fucking, my Roomba. I call him.
Josh:Johnny Five. I cried in Flubber as well, flubber.
Zach:Yeah, I cried there in.
Josh:Flubber, you remember that with Robin Williams?
Zach:Oh, yeah, yeah it was when they made a flying car out of Gak?
Josh:Yeah, but was it Short Circuit, where one of the robots was beat to death by somebody and he died, but then he comes back?
Zach:Oh, yeah, he gets jumped yeah that's right.
Zach:And his eyes all fucked up. He fucking tore me up. I was tore up, yeah 100%.
Josh:It was a weapon.
Zach:He originally had a little laser on his back and then, I guess, since he's good or self-aware or whatever, it turned into a toolbox.
Josh:Like a bubble, it was like a red toolbox. I was going to go back and watch those.
Zach:I don't remember that, yeah dude Short circuit one and two.
Josh:Yeah, Flubber was the little, he made a little thing and it had a little robot. Yeah, it had a little hovercraft bot that helped Robin Williams do all this. Oh yeah, yeah, that's right, he did have a little.
Zach:Yeah, it wasn't Flubber Run or whatever.
Josh:No, no, no, no, it was a separate thing.
Zach:Yeah, okay, but yeah, I always thought the premise of that was weird was that substance, I guess, bounced infinitely and it was able to generate?
Zach:lift in a car. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if it did make any sense.
Josh:RIP old.
Zach:Robin, whatever Nice. Nice callbacks, but then also the substance also had kind of like a personality and was like doing dance numbers and shit.
Josh:I don't need. It was weird. I don't need shit like that around me. It was a weird fucking movie. It's a little weird.
Zach:Thank God they don't make things like that.
Josh:Well, same goo from Ghostbusters 2. He's like I talk to it, talk sweet to it, and it reacts.
Zach:Yeah, right, yeah exactly.
Josh:So what did you do with this Ray Took?
Zach:it home with him. Vehicle Ah shit, ah, jesus, okay, well, so that was the things we watched this week that we liked and did not like. Another one, I guess I'll throw in there that I did like, because I was just thinking about it was 1923.
Josh:Yeah, that was mentioned on our Instagram. Oh, was it? Yeah, I asked everybody what they were watching and one of them was 1923. Okay, I've seen season one. Okay, I've never watched it. I haven't seen season two.
Zach:Season two's out. It's been a few episodes in. I've been delaying because I've been watching all this stuff and I just don't have as much time to watch things, and I started it last night.
Josh:Episode one I think I got episode two in 19 two. Okay, my bad Got you.
Zach:So really good show. It is good, taylor Sheridan, the dude apparently he's making. He's having to make a shit ton of shows because he's got to pay for that fucking ranch.
Josh:Four, sixes that he bought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he owns.
Zach:Four, sixes Ranch in Texas.
Josh:I don't feel bad for him? No, and he pays himself to use all, used all the, whatever the ranch to make these shows and shit he's a good writer.
Zach:He's a good writer. Yeah, he's a good writer. Some stuff misses, I think Some stuff hits. I think he has more hits than he does misses, I think Mayor of Kingstown is. I've never started that. I've watched season one because it had Jeremy Renner in. I like Jeremy Renner, I do too. But season two is already out. It's been out for a while. I don't know. I just didn't really like the premise necessarily. I've heard Tulsa King is pretty good, but I just don't want to watch a fucking almost dead.
Josh:Sylvester Stallone, I can't do it.
Zach:If he's not Rocky or Rambo, I can't fucking do it. I just saw where he was interviewed on johnny carson from the 70s. Yeah, I want. I know I was talking about that but he was on there.
Josh:I just small doses man. I don't know I can't same way. That's what rambo was cool. I like him for what he does, but I can't do the toast. I can't do it.
Zach:Expendables is the last thing I watched him in it yeah, and even even then I didn't really watch all of those, but like Demolition man, fucking love that movie. You know what I'm saying.
Zach:Yeah, sandra Bullock was super hot, sandra.
Zach:Bullock was super hot. It had weird Rob Schneider in it. He was also one of those cop buddies.
Josh:Yeah, but didn't that have. Wesley Snipes was in that too. Wesley Snipes was in that. You know what I'm saying? Hell yeah, great movie.
Zach:He peaked a long time ago and I just can't get into anything that I'm.
Josh:I was looking up taylor sheridan's movies. He's written and directed and you're right, he's had more hits yes, I definitely had more hits he directed wind river, which wind river is one of the wildest shootouts I've ever seen. Yes, he wrote that fucked up too, sicario, I love that movie. Yep, and the second second one wasn't as good the one, but he wrote both of those. Yes, both great cartel movies. If you haven't seen those, definitely need to see them. But Nisto Toro shines, yep, 100%.
Zach:Yeah, mary of Kingstown wasn't as good. Tulsa King I haven't seen, but I just don't see it.
Josh:Landman.
Zach:I actually want to watch that, probably soon. My parents loved it. My dad said it was really good too, but I've heard people say it's really good, of course Yellowstone it's finally done, but he created the Yellowstone verse.
Zach:Yep 1883 might be one of the best one-season shows that I've seen and we should probably do a whole segment of that coming up, maybe next episode, because we need to do some research on this. But what's the best, like top five, all time best one season shows, and we can throw anime in there too, cause there's some of those. All right, I'll write that down. Um, yeah, make some notes. Note taker.
Josh:Cause 18.
Zach:Yeah, 18, 83 was fan fucking tastic 10 out of 10. It was awesome.
Josh:It really is Great story. I just can't. I mean it was the Oregon Trail, but it was brutal and fucking season On finale. That last 15 minutes was the hardest thing I've ever had to watch. It might be the only thing that.
Zach:I like. I'm not a big country music guy, so it's the only thing that I like that Tim McGraw did Him and his wife both were absolutely stunning in that show.
Josh:Yes, they looked like they performed like two-season actors. I mean it was. It was very good, Dude.
Zach:And then in 1923, obviously it's in the same Yellowstone verse. It's all about the Dutton family.
Zach:Yeah.
Zach:And 1923, when I first watched that. If it was just a one season I would say it's not as good as 1883, but it's still good, oh yeah.
Zach:Season 1883, but it's still good. Oh yeah, season one was super fun. It's still really good. And so the fact that they cliffhangered it and they're going to have a season two, I was like hell yeah, keep this going because it's still good. So far it is good. And the girl that spoiler I don't give a fuck about spoilers the girl that dies at the very end. It's the daughter of the Dutton family in 1883.
Josh:She's a wild ass, wild ass. She was cool.
Zach:She ends up hooking up with old Duke, old cowboy.
Josh:She hooked up with the cowboy and then she hooks up with old Indian dude. Becomes like an Indian Right.
Zach:She gets shot by a dirty arrow and then dying and she's basically like I don part of the land or some bullshit, whenever she actually they actually get to yellowstone, you actually get to the valley.
Josh:I hated that part and, uh, so hard to watch. It's brutal um and um. May, I think was her name. What was her name? I don't know, couldn't see that the tears yeah, uh, she narrates 1923, yeah um she's on the grave I guess um, they dig her up.
Zach:Yeah, it's very good perform um. Highly recommend watching those. I'm glad yellowstone proper is over because it started to get fucking as soon as they brought in piper parabo to be like the fucking hippie, or whatever it was bad and I got fucking sick and tired of beth just being a giant fucking bitch.
Zach:Well, you thought it was just I'm like, I'm over it, like you're damaged and so you hate everybody. Well, we liked at the beginning in the thought it was just I'm like, I'm over it, like you're damaged and so you hate everybody. Well, we liked at the beginning in the beginning we thought she was gonna get softened up. She got worse she got worse.
Josh:I have not seen the latest season, it just came out on peacock all seasons. Well, I'm gonna catch up on the last season. Well, you know the whole thing.
Zach:Yes, like kevin costner basically like yes, ejected himself well so you know what he? He basically pulled out to go do his own thing. Kevin Costner is a weird dude. I like him, but I do like him. I do too, and he loves making Epics, american specific Epics, yep, that tell America's story, america's history Dances with Wolves that he pays for.
Josh:He ends up paying for them because they end up going over budget.
Zach:Yeah, that's his thing he loves doing. He likes playing American-centric movies.
Josh:Well, waterworld. What was that? I don't know. America Drowned. That's an exception. I guess, Of course now, I guess that's what he does or whatever, but yeah he had to get whatever role he could get, I guess, back in the day.
Zach:But he left Yellowstone essentially for the final season Spoiler.
Josh:Well, there's some creative differences between him and Taylor.
Zach:Sheridan, I think there was, and I think he was just tired of the. I don't think he liked the way it was going. Yeah, and he was just tired of. He's not someone that generally would want to play a character for fucking 10 years or whatever. You know what I mean. Yeah, he's going would want to play a character for fucking 10 years or whatever. You know what I mean. Yeah, he's going to. He's going to want to move on to his own thing. I guess he gets a little antsy in his pantsy, I think. So, uh, he went to go do basically Yellowstone.
Zach:No it was a frontier horizon horizon, excuse me, and it's a. Apparently it's got multiple parts. I don't know, I've seen this before. Yeah, I mean most. It's basically 1883, essentially it's the same kind of storyline. Almost Ensemble cast got multiple storylines going on at the same time. They all kind of intertwine a little bit and it's set in that same era right In the Midwest. So it's not groundbreaking or anything, anything like that, but it's good, I'll I'll.
Zach:When part two comes out, I'll watch it okay um, but anyway check it out um, but anyway, like I said I was, I'm glad that yellowstone kind of ended because I was kind of done with that show so I'm now it's like 1923 that's.
Josh:That's the kind of the primary focus for me, for the shared inverse okay, I'm gonna go back and finish the last season of Yellowstone so I can, kind of, because I love the show but I want to see the last season.
Zach:Definitely get through it. I've heard, mixed reviews.
Josh:Everybody went into it with a bad taste anyways, because Kevin was leaving.
Zach:It's like Game of Thrones, season 8. It's like they rush it. They just wanted to get through it and tie it off and be done.
Josh:rush it they just wanted to get through it and tie it off and be done with it. And now there's side shows coming Now they got spinoffs and shit, and so I think the spinoffs are the focus.
Zach:It was kind of like I don't know if you really got into Walking Dead.
Josh:I did six seasons and then I quit watching. I got bored. I don't like the genre of zombies. Yeah, because it ends up getting away from that and becomes just how shitty people are and I don't get.
Zach:I got bored with it well, so I think that's what I liked about is is that the, the zombies were. The were a backdrop, but the focus was survival. It was people trying to rebuild civilization I was at first right and.
Zach:But you're right at some point. Um, it does get old and I think the spinoffs that they had weren't as good as the original at its peak. But eventually you ended up watching that more to me. You ended up watching that more than you did the original at the very end of it, just because it was played out.
Josh:I couldn't get into the Last of Us. I got halfway through season one. I got bored.
Zach:So I guess because of the zombie genre, I'm just not interested.
Josh:I one, I got bored. So I guess because of the zombie genre I'm just not interested. I just, I don't know. I don't think it's a bad television show. I'm not saying that at all. It's just not for me, I just couldn't.
Zach:This is interesting. So I don't like kids saving the world movies, yeah, and you don't like zombie movies.
Josh:I just can't stand zombie movies. Okay, zombie movies okay, so that for one world war z, I will say, yeah, that one was that one different re-watched and it is its own thing. That's it other than that I can't stand it. I don't like the wall. I've never seen night of the living dead. I've never watched any of those old school at first part of the zombie genre. I think it's overplayed and it's. I just think it's aggravating.
Zach:I don't know yeah, I can't watch it. I, I don't.
Josh:It's not scary to me.
Zach:Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you on the zombie genre in general. To me it's not even really bad. The zombies are just the zombies are like a natural disaster, they're like a weather event to me.
Josh:I just don't want to watch people being shitty.
Zach:They're the reason why the world fell, and what I like to, what I'm interested in, is the post-apocalyptic nature of the show and how people you know get along, get along or don't get along, and that's when it's real fun, and you know how they're trying to rebuild society from the ground up. Whenever there is no rules, there's no laws anymore. You know what I mean, but that's interesting to me.
Zach:The zombie is just a reason for that to happen, like it could be a fucking super volcano that goes off Like who gives a shit, like it doesn't matter. So that that to me, that's what the zombie genre is and I think that what everybody thinks it is. But I would say some people do the zombies better than others. And the walking dead was very um. First of all it was a little it's based on. It's also a comic book based on a comic book and um uh, they never.
Zach:They never say the Z word. They never call them zombies. Everybody has a different word for them, so I always thought that was weird. They always danced around the word, but no one ever fucking said zombie. They're called walkers, they're walkers or rotters or you know. People say different shit. They're like slang.
Zach:Yeah, they've got different words.
Zach:Different communities in the world have different names for it, but the main characters that you follow are called walkers, but they never say zombies. But World War Z is a different take on the zombie genre. It's awesome. Also, another one that I think you do like is 28 Days Later and 28 Weeks Later. Never seen it, never seen those.
Zach:I thought you'd seen those Never seen any of them.
Zach:That's very much like World War Z, where they're not like slow shambling. They're seeing 12 Monkeys 12 Monkeys is well, yeah, that's not really, I'm just saying I've never seen that outbreak, but I've never.
Josh:There's a new 28 coming out. I've never watched those. Are they good?
Zach:yeah, they are good. They're very much like World War Z. We're not shambling, fucking rotting corpses that are dead. It's a disease that people catch. They're very much alive.
Josh:That's why it just makes them frenzied. I guess it's a. That's what I'm, that's.
Zach:I think that's why it just makes them frenzied. Yeah, I think that. Well, I like I guess it's a that's what 28 Days Later. And 28 Weeks Later is it's just like World War Z, except they don't turn into like a fucking wave of bodies.
Josh:I think it intertwines what you said, though Like Not so far out, that it's like what the fuck it's like? The Walking Dead season one was really good. I was hooked. I was like this is dope. I'm trying to figure out what the fuck happened. How are people surviving this? But World War Z was currently happening. He was traveling the world because he worked for the CDC and trying to figure out what the fuck is happening. That whole epic scale of that was awesome.
Zach:Of course, the body's flooding over the wall and israel and shit yeah, I think that's the reason why you probably resonate to that one, that that you don't to the others, because most zombie movies, it, it, uh, it uh takes place around a group of like normal people, like at a fucking mall, right yeah. Or or, you know, in the case of walking dead they're just like in, you know, trying to survive in the american south in the woods, and everything like it's small. You know, world war z is like okay, how would society, quote at large, like government and military, and how would they respond?
Josh:well, you're watching that unfold, which is interesting, and he did. He didn't do stupid shit. Yes, that's what I like too. He wasn't a complete idiot, went for the essentials, got the rifle. I don't like watching when people are just doing asinine things that don't make any sense. At least that was kind of it's a little bit of a different take.
Zach:And instead of just trying to survive and quote, society hadn't fallen. It was basically. World War Z was basically Outbreak. It was an Outbreak movie. It was no different than the movie Outbreak. To where this thing? And he was trying to get to the origin, the patient zero. If you can get to patient zero and you can find the origin of the contagion, then you can find a way to inoculate, you know, cure it. Yeah, and that's what world war z was about. The zombies was. It wasn't really a zombie movie, it was. It was a pandemic movie is what it was.
Josh:I'll give that an eight and a half.
Zach:Yeah, I definitely.
Josh:I'm kind of disappointed that there wasn't a sequel and then sometimes I'm not because I don't want to be shitty, that's true I just get that cool I'll just assume they figured it out, because the ending of that film all right cool I'm. I'm actually okay with it. What was it? They end up giving themselves hepatitis c well, no, he ended up yeah, went into because the they find out obviously like what that kid had, they won't. It has to have a host to spread. Well, it won't spread if the host has any sort of disease Any kind of ailment.
Josh:It's severe enough. So he went there where they had anthrax and all this wild shit and he gave himself Ebola, or he gave himself something, no I think it was hepatitis.
Zach:B or some shit.
Josh:Something that they could cure when he came out, but they found out that it masked him.
Zach:Let me find out.
Josh:Just go to the end of uh world war z on wiki, I should tell you.
Zach:But yeah, I don't know I can't, I can't do, do those the zombie movies.
Josh:Yeah, right I mean sure, I guess it's it's gotta be. It's hit and miss for me. Yeah, what?
Zach:about um, here's, here's a zombie, let's put. Let's poke you a little bit here and see if there's some zombie movies you did like, do it, do it. Uh, what about army of the dead?
Josh:yeah, because it it didn't play out like a zombie movie. Right, it played out like more sci-fi. Yes, there was a sci-fi it was an alien beginning. Yeah, so right that one didn't feel the same. To me that was a one-off.
Zach:I didn't watch the other one so maybe let's uh, let's, narrow down your what you're, because I might just I have a distinct dislike for movies to where the kids are heroes, like not young adults, you want me to poke you, but like they're fucking 12.
Zach:I'm out. You know what I'm saying, yeah.
Zach:Let the adults handle the business, but anyway. So that's my specific one, so I think maybe yours is, and correct me if I'm wrong. You don't like movies where it's like literally dead beings coming, resurrecting.
Zach:Yeah, like a traditional zonk.
Zach:Yeah, I just shambling rotting corpses.
Josh:Yeah, and everybody's like what do we do? They don't run. There was no runners. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so they just move in a pack. Yeah, they're eating our fucking brains.
Zach:Sorry, Maybe at the time if I was like I, I don't like it. I've never been a fan you like, because it was.
Josh:They weren't actually dead, and maybe the quality as well, maybe because, um, if you look at when you're talking about, uh, walking dead like those are traditional zombies in the beginning yeah and I watched six seasons of it because I got I got attached to characters and like you know, of course they're like got to keep him out that whole thing. So it was kind of relatable if it really happened. I was like, okay, this might be kind of how it went.
Zach:Alec, I think it's. I want to say I think it's Alex Kurtzman. He's the guy that made the graphic novels and then he also was basically the showrunner as well. Uh, for the walking dead is, uh, his. The premise of walking dead and the reason why he wrote that graphic novel.
Zach:Series of graphic novels was, like most zombie movies to that point, were about the initial outbreak yeah right the initial fault and it usually happens very quick, or maybe it's like 24 hours after the initial outbreak. Basically, shit's going down, everyone's getting zombified and it's usually focused around a group of an ensemble cast, a group of people stuck in a mall or in a fucking you know wherever, and it's them trying to survive. And either they do, or maybe one person gets out, whatever, and then end scene Like that's usually how they've all gone down right. Yeah, he was like well, what happens? Like day two, like he basically was like I want to see this through.
Josh:Yeah, I don't want to see where a nuke's just dropped and everybody dies. I want to see like Exactly.
Zach:So that was how Walking Dead kind of became.
Josh:Because I fucking like Resident Evil.
Zach:I like those movies, the T-Virus.
Josh:That's not even a zombie thing, no, but it's. It's a contagion that creates, I guess they don't die, I mean I guess they transform so I think that's where your bugaboo is is that rotting dead, shambling corpses? I don't give a fuck. Not entertaining to me, okay annoying. I'm glad we found this. I'm glad we discovered this. I feel better about it now.
Zach:Yeah exactly, we've analyzed your disdain for zombie movies.
Josh:Write that in my journal tonight.
Zach:Yes.
Zach:I was thinking here's another one that's zombie-esque. You need to watch 28 Days Later.
Josh:Yeah, I'll check that out 28.
Zach:Weeks Later.
Zach:Because I've heard good things. Yes, because 28 years later, I guess is coming out and that's going to be, that's going to be good.
Josh:Yeah, the trailer where, like that dude in that like cornfield or whatever, it looked horrible.
Zach:Yeah and yeah, because obviously they're evolving or something like that. It's going to be interesting.
Josh:Yeah.
Zach:I need to catch up. And so you like Resident Evil, World War Z. I mean, there's a theme here. You like Army. No, Army of Darkness is the Evil Dead, that's something.
Josh:Bruce Campbell, yeah, those are good too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, except that first one Evil Dead was rough.
Zach:It was not really zombies, it was more like demons. Yeah.
Josh:Well, I'm not saying the same, John, but you just mentioned it. Sam Raimi did that first one. It was hard to watch that girl gets raped by that tree.
Zach:Yeah, yeah, lesser, that's not true, awful yeah, uh, what about day of the day of the dead? No, I don't know. I understood. Um, yeah, that's also traditional zombies stuck in a mall, that whole thing.
Josh:I just don't care okay, and then maybe they're just done. They're just older, shitty movies, I think this.
Zach:I think this is pretty solidified. I think is I feel good about this. You don't like dead?
Josh:yeah, zombies and you don't have to be frenzied or yeah, and you don't like any steven spielberg film with children leading the way, and I don't like.
Zach:I don't like kids saving the day. Fuck them kids. If it was up to like, realistically, if it was up to kid, we'd be fucked.
Josh:I mean, yeah, like. But then the argument would be like well, these kids are different, like no, they're not no, they're not. Fuck your whimsy. Get the fuck out of here I like the movie what it is, but if there's some parent aid in there, I'm like all right, I can buy it. Because I mean, I love Stranger Things, but they have adult help.
Zach:That's what I'm saying. Like they would have been totally fucked if it was for Hoppers. She has powers. It's a different thing.
Josh:Exactly right. Someone's going to say something. I do love that show and I know it's led by teenagers, middle school kids up yes, Super 8.
Zach:I think the one that I hang my hat on as this is an example of a shitty movie, and the reason why it's shitty is because they let kids be a part, like they put it in the hands of kids.
Josh:And it's Pacific Rim 2. The one we talked about, it's the one, that's the one, and I'm just like you ruined it.
Zach:You ruined it because you got these multi-billion dollar fucking mechs this is a trillion dollar mech, or whatever. You got a bunch of them and they're there to save the planet and whoop some kaiju ass and you're like well, we need some children.
Josh:Like the fuck, where are all the adults? Where are the adults? We just have cadets.
Zach:You just had the. What blows my mind about it is the last movie. It was all adults.
Zach:Yeah.
Josh:One set left, yeah.
Zach:A couple left. They're still alive, and no mechs yeah.
Josh:Actually there is. No. There was no more at the end of that movie. Yeah, that everybody.
Zach:Yes, well, I think they even said that.
Zach:I think they did well, it was the girl. She was the only one that's left because oh, what's his face? Um, charlie Hunnam's character, um, they like killed him off screen. Well, that sucks. You know what I mean, for in number two, I liked it, and so the uh, you know, the Japanese chick was the only girl that was left, and then I guess the only place they could find pilots that can go into the drift yeah, it was a bunch of fucking kids and that just infuriated them.
Josh:That happened this year in that movie world. That movie was in 2025. Oh, was it. Pacific Rim was Okay.
Zach:Not even fucking close to that. Yeah, so they ruined it. And also that's probably also the reason why I get that Harry Potter is about fucking Hogwarts and it's kids in school.
Josh:It's kids, but still, kids save the day, kids save the day. I mean, I love those movies more than most, and it's children. Right, it's relatable you watch them develop into teenagers.
Zach:And at any point, at any point in that fucking movie, the adults could have banded together and done some shit.
Josh:But they just like fucking.
Zach:Dumbledore and Snape and all of them fucking bullshit around and let the kids get into the shenanigans. There's more to it than that, zach, I know, but that's my beef with the fucking. I can't get into your book.
Josh:You hate children, I hate kids. You hate teachers and children. Everybody knows that, that's true. You hate teachers that mold our youth and you hate the youth.
Zach:The Boys actually kind of posted some spicy teacher comments. This week we're going to take a teacher call-in. We need to. We need to, and my mind is open, I'll set it up.
Josh:My mind is open about open. I'll set it up. My mind is open about it, I'll set it up.
Zach:But I have yet to hear a rational argument to refute my beef.
Josh:I'm going to sit back and just listen to that show.
Zach:Right.
Josh:And just be like that's not what he said last week.
Zach:What drives me nuts about that whole conversation, whenever I express my opinion on it, is everyone's like oh, yeah, yeah, but but. But. But I'm like I'm not saying that their job isn't fucking hard. No one actually attacks my actual argument. They always attack something I'm not fucking saying.
Josh:Right.
Zach:So that's just my general beef. I'm not going to get into it. If we get a teacher on here, then we can have a nice civil conversation. Okay, where I'll be right and they'll be wrong.
Josh:Oh yeah, Because if they end up saying it too wrong, we'll just hang up.
Zach:Yeah, be like you're wrong. You're wrong. Bye, sorry, this is my show, not yours. Yeah.
Josh:Until the beginning, like just a disclaimer, like I'm gonna be right right, it's set up.
Zach:This is like wrestling I'm gonna give you a chance, but it's hopeless yeah, right, I'm getting the belt at the end.
Josh:Right, you might have it for a second. This is rigged.
Zach:This is like a boxing match. I'm you're, you're gonna take a dive and I'm gonna make a bunch of money thanks for coming on right, I like that. Uh, we really do need to set up. Uh, some like callers to call. I know we got, I've got some people on deck people yeah, we'll get it going, you too, uh. Speaking of which, uh, let's, uh, you've got some comments that people have made.
Josh:Yeah, yeah, so, um, let me do that let me do a quick shout out for carter. Carter's a longtime listener. Uh, he's listened to all of our episodes, all of them. Great guy, um, family friend, but he is in the age group Um, when we asked what was a high school film that came out from 2015 on um, which I don't know his exact age, Sorry.
Zach:Carter, how far back did we go? We did like we did all the way up to 15 to 15.
Josh:So, 15 on, and he messaged me, uh and me, and said he can't think of any in that time frame, when he was in high school, that a movie that came out that was relevant to what was happening. Okay, he said there wasn't any. Now he did mention that he hasn't seen our era films.
Josh:Okay, he'd never seen Superbad. So I told him. I said you have to watch Superbad, so he's gonna watch it and stuff he'll let me know. But he did say that there wasn't one that he remembers in that era when he was in school for those you know, four years of high school, that was that was like a staple film, that kind of like capsulized defined that. Yeah, he said there wasn't one that he can remember era um, there might be one.
Josh:This is just from his take. Interesting that he didn't remember there being one all right.
Zach:So so so far there hasn't really and we could. I could ask AI real quick. We didn't do this on the last episode, but maybe we can do that.
Josh:But there was a lot that he hadn't seen from our era. So, that'll be interesting to get his take on what he thought about it, dude, if your allergy has been so fucked up the last month. Pretty much, bro. I just was bringing that up while you were. My eyes are watering. I was just bringing that up while you were typing. It's been terrible. The wildest weather ever is happening here in Tennessee.
Josh:Yeah it's a constant tickle, oh mine's eyes watering, or it's just. You know, it's a constant tickle. Oh, mine's eyes watering, or it's just yeah, it's terrible, all right.
Zach:Well, let's ask. Pondering that question here, oh, wow, I mean, some of these are Spit some out, didn't it? Let's see? The Edge of 17 came out in 2016. I've seen that. Haley Steinfeld, I mean, nah, I don't think Haley Steinfeld, I mean nah, I don't think that defines a generation of high schoolers and that's it. That's all AI's got. That sucks. Yeah, I feel like.
Josh:COVID killed them. Other than that, we had somebody when I asked.
Zach:Maybe it wasn't COVID, that was 2015.
Josh:Maybe that generation is just they don't, they're not on, they're not movies, they're watching fucking tiktoks and youtube. Well, not only that, I think they're. I know gen z is for sure. It has a different outlook on humor and that kind of stuff, I don't know I'm just, I'm just thinking out loud like if I'm trying to make a film for the new group coming up.
Zach:Yeah.
Josh:Yeah, I I've heard I don't I haven't researched it a whole lot, but I've heard that Gen Z, like when we mentioned it before, like they don't like a lot of sexual content in their films. They don't like they have a different outlook on television.
Zach:Maybe Edge of 17 is their movie Maybe.
Josh:I don't know.
Zach:I haven't seen it in a while. I'm about to watch it. I've never seen it. Is it even a comedy? Is it a?
Josh:movie Dude. It's been a while since I've seen it. Let me get a quick little sneak.
Zach:I guess I get what it's about. I've seen the trailer for it, or little clips here and there, because I do like Haley Steinfeld and she's cute as fuck.
Josh:Yeah, you just like her because she's cute. Yeah, not what she's doing, I get it.
Zach:She's a. Is she already married or she's about to marry? I don't know. It gives a shit, I don't know.
Josh:I just Did, you see where Sidney.
Zach:Spade called off her wedding.
Josh:Yeah, oh know, uh, and I've seen, I swear I've seen that dude and some shit before.
Zach:Maybe I've not seen this movie, zach edge of 17. I don't think I've seen it, but it's free on philo so I'm not gonna watch it. It doesn't seem. I mean I've when I I think I gather it's just like a teenage angst movie and woody harrelson.
Zach:That girl, yeah, it does have woody harrelson in it yeah, so maybe that's their movie, maybe, I don't know.
Zach:Let's uh, let's see what 2020 and 2025. Let's see what AI's got for that.
Josh:Yeah, Sydney Sweeney, I'm sorry about your failed marriage.
Zach:No, we have a chance.
Josh:You do, I don't. I'll just look at her pictures of her underwater. That's where she celebrated her split for 10 million likes Like drowning herself. I think the Duff is the one dude. That's 2015.
Zach:Yeah, but we said that that was 2010 to 2015, right, right, so it was a tail end of that era.
Josh:So unless there's another one we can.
Zach:We can supplant if somebody has something, throw it up and we can make the duff the 2015 one, the 2020, but the 2020 to 2025, uh, that's a weird era, the fallout never heard of it.
Josh:There's a new show on Amazon that's about has Jenna.
Zach:Ortega in it never heard of it. She's weird dude, the fucking. The high school movie is dead, I think. I think the high school movie is dead.
Zach:Nobody, I don't know the dove may be the last one and I haven't seen alright.
Zach:The Duff may be the last one and I haven't seen. All right, I'll make a point to watch Edge of Seventeen and if it's a, if I think like, oh, this, I'll watch it too.
Josh:I just don't think it's memorable enough, I'll watch it, let's find out, let's find out, let's find out. Okay, I'll watch it and the Duff is more of a feel good towards the end, like, like nobody in that mood.
Zach:In that movie, the duff is, like you know, going on to bigger and better things to me that the Duff has like never been kissed, or uh yeah, I mean I had a Drew Barrymore. Well, I'm not talking about Cassie.
Josh:I meant just story-wise. It's not as funny as super bad. Super bad to me is its own thing, Like I think I don't think anything's ever come close.
Zach:Yeah, but yeah, oh yeah, tears. Yes, it's an S-class movie. I get it. The Duff, I don't think definitely reaches that, but it had what was his name? Robbie Amell. Yeah, he ain't really done much, he ain't done shit. You know what I'm saying. So who came out of the Duff, where the movie wasn't that big? No, no, no, no, yeah, I agree. So it was probably the last one, unless Edge of 17,. I don't know. Maybe let's watch it. We need to watch it Because it does have Woody Harrelson. I do like Woody Harrelson.
Zach:I like Woody Harrelson.
Zach:But yeah, I guess that movie's dead, so somebody movie makers get out there. The high schoolers of today need a fucking movie that they can attach themselves to or they don't.
Josh:But actually you know what You've been around high school kids.
Zach:Take it back. I'll bet you, I know what the 2020 to 2025 is currently. What's that? And it ain't a movie, it's a TV show and it's fucking crazy. What is it? Euphoria, I can't get into that. That's about high schoolers and it's a bunch of fucking Dude. But let me Bunch of bunch of whores, yes, and cam girls. It's wild and trainees and bunch of shit. It's a bunch Like it's drug users, like it's wild.
Josh:I asked you about it. I called you this was when it first came out and I said have you seen this dark? It's like it. And then I'm, I'm watching. I'm like where the fuck were these parties at in high school like they? They were like serious, like club level parties and people are like fucking in the bathroom and doing drugs. I was like this is not. I don't know what high school reality this is. I was like if this is the new version of high school, I never would have survived yeah, I mean, obviously it's a little put in los ang, so maybe it's a little.
Josh:But it's a rich. You kind of get the rich part of town, then you kind of get the chick that's in the slums. But I mean, I've been to a high school party.
Zach:That's like obviously not that level. Sure, Because it's set where it's set, but like for the area that I grew up in yeah, I guess I forgot about Euphoria People hooking up in the back room Some casual drug use. How do we?
Josh:not remember Euphoria Because it wasn't a movie. I guess we were saying movies. You're right, I think that's 2015.
Zach:Well, no, that's got to be 2020 to 2025.
Josh:And that's got an ensemble cast.
Zach:When did Euphoria come out?
Josh:It's fucked up. I don't really particularly like that show, but it is dark.
Zach:They're about to do another season 2019 is when it first started came out, so we'll say that's 2020, 2025. Yeah, it's coming back it's coming back, and I think this is the last one, and they've already said that it's definitely going to be taking place in college. It's not high schoolers anymore, because at some point these people were just too fucking old to play high schoolers.
Josh:Yeah, I mean that's, I think.
Zach:Euphoria is a good stand-in for the quote high school movie say show because it because it does have heavy hitters it has launched Sydney Sweeney. For fuck's sake. I mean, no one would know who Sydney Sweeney is if she wasn't in euphoria. Straight up, that's true. Yeah, that's when I first came across that a hundred percent when everyone was privy to what she had to offer.
Josh:Yeah, I mean, she's a beautiful lady and she actually is a really good actress too. I think she's cool. I've seen her interviews. Apparently she works on Ford Broncos and all kinds of shit, wakeboards, yeah. And then she got slandered last year for someone in her family had a Trump something on. She was at a birthday party. They're like meh, you know everybody gets upset.
Zach:And she was like shut up, here's my titties.
Josh:Yeah, well then in an interview they asked her too about her t, because we're on that subject. I guess she wanted to get a reduction. Her mom said you'll regret that in college.
Zach:She leans in.
Josh:She should lean into it.
Zach:That is something I do appreciate about Sydney Sweeney, and maybe our female listeners would disagree with us. Here we go, but she leans into it. She is fully aware Of how hot she is, of that her two assets that sit on her front or what like, what got her where she's at, like she's. She makes no bones about it. She understands what it is, she leans into it and she's milking it for all that it's worth. I mean, she talked about how she went.
Zach:She could have gone to acting school, but she went to business school, cause she's like that when you're in the acting world, like it's also a business and you can get fucked over if you don't understand the business side of it. And so she understands how to market herself. She knows the roles that she's. You know she's not. She's not one of those actresses like um that gets over, sexualized and she. So in order to compensate, they do something really fucking indie and they try to like and they come out against misogyny and the male gaze and all this bullshit. She's like no, fucking, look at my tits. She actually said it.
Josh:It's awesome. She said I will not stop doing nude scenes 100%. She says stuff like that she lives in reality and that's what I like about her, in my opinion, and I don't give a fuck. But all the people that are especially women bashing it's because you're probably gross that are like, especially women bashing it's because you're probably gross, yeah, like women bash other women for being hot dudes when other dudes are more attractive. We don't bash them, we just we lift them up.
Zach:Yeah, it's a good looking dude, nice job man no, I'll crack some jokes at him, of course, but you don't.
Josh:But we don't lose sleep, no over it knowing. Or it's like if I see a dude and little swim trunks and he's jacked or whatever it's not like. Can you believe what he's fucking wearing?
Zach:yes, I fucking can believe yeah, because if I, look like that.
Josh:I do the same thing when I watch reacher. My god, if I look like that dude, I would not wear anything but a tie to work. But if another chick sees another chick hot, it's like look at that disgusting bitch wearing that tiny swimsuit. Fuck off man. Sorry. Hot chicks are cool, dude.
Zach:Like it's sorry, it's 100, I mean mean just yeah, but she owns it Like fucking own it. That's my thing. It's like don't just accept the reality of the situation. Thank you, and that's what she's doing.
Josh:But yeah, she got her launch from that show. I think you're right. I think that is the show.
Zach:And what's his name?
Zach:I'm saying also it's not like she's a shitty actress, it's not like I'm trying to think of who's somebody that really leaned into their sexuality, but they're actually not a good actress or actor.
Josh:There's some people that are like that.
Zach:Yeah.
Zach:I can think of a ton of nude scenes, but I can't think of any.
Zach:Megan Fox is not a good actress. No, she's terrible, but she's super hot, she's super fucking hot.
Josh:Okay, hold on a sec. Let me semi-correct you. She's good in this Is 40. She does better acting in that.
Zach:She's better in a comedy role. I think she does a little better. Does a little bit better. Okay, better, okay, a serious dramatic role she's not good, she's terrible um, absolutely not good at all. Uh, she's just very hot uh but sydney sweeney, we salute you can fucking play it like she can play a dramatic role. Yeah, she does very well, um.
Josh:So it's not like I'm not just saying, she's just a you know pair of titties I mean, she is actually a good actress, don't forget, right, she's got a nice ass, right but she just happened to be very fucking hot, but she is actually a very good actress, so I think that helps her too.
Zach:Yeah, that also helps. Maybe the hate.
Josh:I can think of an actress who wants to be in a sexual role. I can think of a few of those who is on the cusp of getting there. Hit me once. That's Millie Bobby Brown. She's on, on her way. Dude, I'm telling you, I don't care what anybody says, called fucked up or not, and she wants, she has wanted to be in an adult role since she was 14. You can go back and watch interviews and it is so awkward and she may be obviously in the spotlight mature level. I'm understanding that.
Zach:But she's exploring. She broke 18 and now she's 21 she's exploring, although I will say you know, there's sometimes child actors. They end up whenever they become adults, specifically the female ones, that sometimes they go fucking way off. She doesn't. Miley Cyrus is an example.
Josh:Oh yeah, goes way off the fucking deep end.
Zach:Yeah, Super sexualizes themselves in order to show the world that they're no longer Hannah Montana. You know she's an adult now.
Josh:I want to be seen as an adult.
Zach:The only way they think that they can do that is to be hypersexual. It's off-putting, it is. It's disturbing. You're like ugh, kind of fucked up. Millie Bobby Brown is doing something similar, but I think she's grounded enough because she's not living in L's not living in in la and hollywood. She's not in that scene. They moved out of there. They moved the fuck out of there. She got married to john bon jovi's kid. Yeah, which is crazy. Yeah, jake bon jovi seems like a nice kid and, uh, she got married. She's like homesteading, she's like living on a fucking farm, but but she's experimenting, she is pushing. She's experimenting right now. She's pushing the boundaries. She just went on, call her, call you, was it call?
Josh:you call your daddy, call her daddy, call her daddy. Podcast where she's and she's you know and that's. But I think, like you said, I think she's navigating the waters yes, but it's, but it's safely.
Zach:It's clear what she's doing she is sexualizing herself. She's also merchandising. She's telling some oh dude she's got the marketing down. Yeah, she's selling a bunch of shit, yeah and uh. But you're right, she is, she's gonna she's writing this out and she's gonna eventually do a role to where she may end up straight up doing nudity. I don't know, you're gonna be a little weird.
Josh:I think it'll be a little odd. I mean, I think she's a good actress, she's been in some good movies, but she is of that generation gen z.
Zach:They're not into that that much. She might not.
Josh:So she might not. I may be totally wrong. I'm just going by what I've seen on social and she's clearly every week.
Zach:It seems she's like up in the ante. Oh, she's a beautiful lady.
Josh:She is. She's a beautiful lady. You know, hey, and you know what, I'm not mad at you. If you're hot and you want to, I will pay the price of admission. Yeah, I was a hot chick. I would lean into it as well. Correct, a hundred percent, or I would at least try.
Zach:Yes. We talked about it before years ago. Hot girl privilege.
Josh:It's a real thing yeah it's a real thing.
Zach:We were talking about that with the coworkers this past week as well. Tell me, man, where. I mean basically saying the same things Like I don't think there's a bunch of perceived privilege that people like to claim white privilege and male privilege and Christian privilege and all this other bullshit. I don't particularly subscribe to that because I think it's a little iffy, but it's hard to prove and it's not universal enough for me.
Zach:Because I mean, there's a lot of you know white privilege, as an example. There's a bunch of white people that have fucking shit on their luck and they got fuck all and they got bad luck, and you know what I'm saying? White homeless people all over the place. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so, because it's not universal enough, but hot girl privilege.
Josh:But the hot girl privilege is pretty damn universal. It's a real thing and I'm not saying it doesn't take work, but I just sent you in our Instagram group where those OnlyFan girls I didn't research this, I don't want to sound like a douche, but they live in that. There's a house where all those OnlyFan girls live and they have a name for their group, the Bop House, but they bring in $10 million a month in that house yeah, a month. One of those girls makes $4 million a month by herself, $4 million in subscriptions. I'm not a subscriber, I don't know what they do. I'm assuming they do some sexualized stuff. I don't know. But that is a. If they did it right and you and they were smart financially and got the right finance, all the stuff, you could do that for what? Five years, two years and never work again in your life.
Zach:Well, and that's an example of like uh, you know hyper, uh, that's a hyper example, example of?
Josh:yeah, now I'm talking about the less than one, but like small batch in the only fan sphere, right?
Zach:but even like your, you know average run in the middle, on the bottom, you know, not, not on the bottom, but like catfish, the your carp, really attractive women get their pick of the dudes, sure so they're gonna. You know, I'm saying they're gonna get. They're gonna get the a successful dude. So even if they're not, you know making10 million a month or whatever, as OnlyFan models. I'm just saying that you don't see a lot of 10s that are living on the street.
Josh:No, that's why also I think we've talked about before I think sexual harassment stuff is bullshit. I know it really happens, but with the workplace stuff it all depends on.
Zach:It's a real thing. It's real in the sense, but I think it's also overblown.
Josh:Yeah, because they give you scenarios when you take the online courses. I'm talking about more from a work perspective. You take the courses and it's like, hey, nice outfit. They're like, oh my god, have you been on Conrad? But I'm like, yeah, if that's the ugly dude in the office or the creepy fucker.
Zach:If that's the ugly dude in the office or the creepy fucker, yes.
Josh:But if it's the attractive guy who says, hey, it's one of those outfit you got on today, you would for real ride that fucking compliment Right, and you wouldn't bother you a bit.
Zach:So it's all up for it's all situational. Yeah, exactly Right, it all depends.
Josh:Uh, yeah, I agree, I don't hot dude, hot girl privilege Pendulum swings.
Zach:Look, I'm sure, when women are in the workplace, you know, decades ago, when they first started, you know getting more positions of power and all this kind of stuff. Yeah, well, there's some misogynistic dudes, some dudes, you know, taking the jokes too far or actually being total fucking creeps, 100% 100%.
Zach:You know it was probably pretty prolific.
Zach:To where you know, you had the. The boys club and the women were excluded and the only time they were involved is whenever the guys were being kind of pervy creeps I got cat called in the parking lot the other day.
Josh:Yeah, it was awesome. I was carrying a bag of chipotle across parking lot and I got cat called yes some lady in a truck, so you know it was probably bad.
Zach:The pendulum is swinging back the other way. You know what I mean um, to where, at some point, you know you can't put people of opposite sex in a you know, close working environment for a minimum 40 hours a week and there's not to be some back and forth. You know what I mean, of course, of course, of course, like you can't have these totally sanitized fucking environments because that's not real life, that's not how people, people don't actually interact in these sanitized ways all the time what did? We say the other day that was.
Josh:It was soul sucking was yes, it was the kind of we got the whole work tangent yes yeah, I end up calling jake about that, maybe decades ago there's a different kind of sucking going on maybe but now it's just soul sucking.
Zach:So you know how do you, like you know, alleviate that you? I don't know sexual jokes here and there. A little flirting ain't hurt nobody. Like do people take too far? Yes, do some people perceive it as taking it too far and it's not really that big of a fucking deal yes, does some one person ruin it for everyone? There's nuance yes, nobody pays attention to the fucking someone.
Josh:Yes, fucking ruin the fun for everybody pretty much.
Zach:Yes, yes, you know who you are, and that's always. That's also always been one of my things about uh, workplace um, harassment of any kind, or workplace safety or any of that. Why don't you just fucking ream the dude or the girl that fucking was involved and tell him hey, cut that shit out fuck off, do that.
Josh:You know, I'm saying no, it has to be a fucking seminar and everybody's got to watch this video I like, I like the memes I've been seeing online where it just fire that one person, where it said like it showed a little kid like get out of, like a fake toy car, and he slammed the door and he was like damn it. And it was like whenever you have to go to work, to have a team's meeting with the people sitting next to you.
Zach:Yeah, yeah, right.
Josh:Yeah, I have to be careful where I share this.
Zach:But when you say, like you know, one person ruins it for everybody, they do, you know, instead of them just ruining it for themselves, and they just get fired or reprimanded over their fucked up activity. Now everybody's got to watch a goofy video that they made in the 90s.
Zach:I love those and you know no one takes them seriously and it's not like somebody who was a piece of shit that was, you know, sexually harassing all the women in the office watches any of those. Not one time in the history of those videos has a piece of shit, misogynist, sexist, whatever you want to call them. Dude watched one of those videos and been like huh, I didn't realize what I was doing. I guess I won't do it no more I didn't know never happened.
Josh:I didn't know, I couldn't do that. I didn't know, I couldn't do that right never has that ever happened. Dude those videos are fucking pointless and nobody watches them. Nobody. Put that bitch on mute and let it the only thing that people get out of those movies.
Zach:The of those videos is jokes and we make fun of them All the time, all the time, anytime I have one Right. So just so you know people that make those, they suck. You've wasted your life.
Josh:No.
Zach:And the goal that you set out to achieve is a total fucking failure.
Josh:My favorite, though, is, if you go back to watch that 80s one, safety. Safety, like accidents in the workplace yeah it's like gruesome. Those people knew what they were doing. Yeah, you want to capture your audience. You show a guy get impaled with a fucking forklift yeah, it was like eating his lunch, yeah, it just goes through his chest.
Zach:Have you seen some? Have you seen real workplace accidents?
Josh:yes, those videos like you get stuck in like a computer.
Zach:That one girl got her arm in a compressor yes, that one flattened it straight up and then it popped back out. It was like paper thin. It was fucking gross.
Josh:Gross, yeah, because it's a hydraulic press Gross, and that's all where that one dude got caught up in that spindle. Oh dude, they're horrible.
Zach:Yeah, dude, they're hard to watch. It was like a paper mill or something like that.
Josh:And the dude algorithm was like accidentally, a dude walked out, it was a, it was a parrot, like a life flight dude walked in the fucking propeller. Yeah, it caught him in the face and they showed the x-ray and he survived it. Like fucking chopped half his skull. It was fucked up. I couldn't believe he survived it, bro.
Zach:No, no, thank you no yeah, yeah, I've seen more death and destruction on instagram in the past few years than I ever have in my entire life yeah, we share a lot of lot of fucked up things on that. Yeah, we do. It only makes it worse, and I even took a few weeks off of that thing, yeah, and I came back. I wasn't going to say this at the time, but I was like give it two weeks, and it was about two weeks, yeah. So how much time do we have?
Josh:How much time do we have? We I took, I ended up separating work and I separated phones. Yes, I ended up getting to separate. I've never been able to separate from work and because I've always the way the field I'm in, the field you're in, is it's 24 seven. Yeah, so I separated to where I could not have work when I'm not working. It was nice to turn my phone off and put it in a drawer, which was weird the first couple of days. You had to have a physical separation. To actually separate, yeah, because, if not, you know, call it work ethic, call it whatever it is. I would check stuff even when I'm not on call, like I'd like, for example, tonight, like sunday, I would check emails ahead of time you were always available what was coming in from monday morning.
Josh:Well, if there's something shitty that I know I have to do on monday, it's going to ruin my sunday evening because I don't do something stupid on monday. Now I come in. Whatever happens, happens it's, it's having that day. And then on the weekend, like, of course, I gave my contact, like to people that matter obviously if they need me uh, so I did, but then I did a.
Josh:You know, this, this time of year I've talked about before, where my mental state's all fucked up for this seasonal depression is a real thing. Fuck you if you don't know what it is research? It is a real body changing fucked up thing.
Zach:I'm, I can feel me, I'm coming out of it straight up. I'm not out of it yet I'm out, I'm coming, I give. Well, yeah, I'm not full. I've been trying some things. I feel myself coming out of it, fix it, um.
Josh:but then I was like social media is so I, it's good, I'm not living the life I'm supposed to. If you don't do these things, you're not hustling. If you don't do this diet, if you don't do these things, your family stuff, if you don't do this with your kids, you're not raising them right. If you're not doing these things, you're a fucked up person.
Zach:If you're not dunking your face into a bowl of ice water four times a day, like your workouts are wrong.
Josh:You should be writing down a gratitude book, you should be doing all these things, and then I get to, as I'm in my dull job, it is what it is. Then you just sit in it. You're just swimming, watching other people only show the best parts of their life. Well then it's like, okay, it's Tuesday and I'm in a meeting and this guy is on a Tuesday and he's with all of his friends who don't work. Nine to fives are having the best fucking time and I'm like this fucking sucks.
Josh:I don't want to do this. And then, of course, this time of year you get into and, like I, have a really wonderful life. Sometimes you have to kind of sit back. I'm not ungrateful.
Josh:I want people to be like you should be grateful for what you have but if you're always comparing, I do know I'm not retarded, I know what and I can say that now daddy's in office, uh, I know what's happening. Like I know that, like all the good, like I'm happy that I woke up, I'm grateful, grateful for all that stuff. But like when you get in the, in that mindset, that social media, and you're on it for fuck, like eight hours a day, yeah, and you look back and you're just like dude, I was like I have to take a break. Now, granted, two weeks is usually what I do two, three weeks because like a detox.
Josh:Well then I forget, because there's also that I talk to only through there, that are like good friends of mine that I only speak to through there. But then also remember too and this is another shitty part of it when you do a break and you don't hear from anyone, like even when you get back on social, just know that about 90% of the people you think care, don't give a fuck about you, like just remember they don't care, like they don't care.
Josh:Most people I are, and even from a from when you interact with people, honestly they're they'll interact with you a few times, but after that, like if they can't get anything out of you, like nothing, if they don't benefit from talking to you, they're not going to speak to you anymore, like they're not going to take that relationship any farther it's completely transactional, it's a hundred percent transactional, like I had to take a step back and realize, like this whole like fantasy, where I like message people and it's like this whole big thing, like, oh, we're like chumming it up, no, we're not, don't give a fuck about you and they don't have to, you're not in there, when these people have all these millions of followers or all this stuff like that. I don't think it's to be a douche, it's just you're not on, you're not on their menu, just an online thing. And I just got too involved in it. I had to get out. Yeah, I was too up with it and I'll probably do it again at some point.
Josh:I wish I could just cold turkey it all, but I use it too. I kept my business stuff, like my clothing brand. I kept that Instagram and I kept this one, because that feed is also just things I like. My personal feed has like 4,000 people I'm following and you can't unfollow a group of people. The two businessmen I have are just developed around things that I like. It's not hustlers and live the life you should. It's not any of that on those pages.
Zach:I heard somebody explain it.
Josh:It maybe just means that I'm fucked up.
Zach:It wasn't really attributed to social media abuse or overuse, like we all do. But and I'm a victim of this as well I'm not a victim, I'm a you partake, I partake I don't want to use the word victim because it's not like no, no, I'm not either.
Josh:Set upon me and I have no. This is power against me.
Zach:Yes, my own uh, you know I'm a prison of my own making, but I heard someone. He's kind of an influencer type, I guess you could call it, but he's an entrepreneur and all this kind of stuff and sometimes I follow those accounts just because I like to, whenever I am feeling motivated. Those accounts sometimes give me a little motivation, be like all right, fuck it, I'm going to do some shit today. You know what I mean. Yeah, this guy is out here, he's making it happen. I'm gonna make something happen today, you know. So I see, as kind of a motivator, I'll get ideas maybe out of it and there's that too.
Josh:That's why I said it's his take on.
Zach:It wasn't just social media, but it was just anything that he does in general, and I think this is a probably. He says that he's everything that he. He just goes through life thinking about things. As far as energy, they have an energy to them and I was like, okay, what is this kind of mystic bullshit he's about to?
Zach:spout but then he kind of walked through it. He's like if I sit on my phone and I scroll through reels for an hour, it doesn't add anything. It's taking energy. Now I'm tired, or my brain is. I've been going through all these reels and now I'm mentally tired. It's negative energy. It's taking energy away from me, when I could have spent that hour adding energy. I could have been working out or I could have been reading a book or working on my business or whatever he does. I'm adding to it. He said even the small things like going outside. I'm literally in the sun. I'm absorbing fucking the rays, getting vitamin D.
Zach:So he starts focusing his mind around things that either add to or take away energy, and that's how he described it. Sounds a little mystic and I'm not into the mystic, you know. You know spiritual but not really I'm not into that bullshit.
Zach:Yeah, but there is chakras, but I guess it's. It's all about a mindset, and he's put himself into a mindset to where, if he treats things in that way it's he sees everything differently through that. He sees everything through that prism now, and obviously that's what everything is kind of about success and failure, and you know, whether you're happy with your life or not happy with your life, or doing things that you're supposed to be doing or doing things that you're not supposed to be doing, it's all about mindset. Yeah, you know what I mean. And he has found a way to be able to put himself into a positive mindset by thinking about things differently. You know what I mean? Yeah, and I think there's something to that. And so what you're saying is like you know there's nothing wrong with social media, but if you're in a mindset to where compare? You're just constantly comparing yourself to where you're looking at those videos and you're like, and I'm sitting in this fucking shitty job and these guys are hanging out and having a blast on a fucking Tuesday.
Zach:It's FOMO, all it does is just fuel your rage. Yeah, it's all negative, that's a negative energy right. To what he's kind of what he's talking about. So you should definitely detox and get off of that. Mine is not necessarily like a comparison thing, but I just get Doom Scroll. I could have spent that two hours Doom Scrolling. I could have been doing something else. That's kind of.
Josh:I don't know if I think one day I would like to completely drop. I wish it would just.
Zach:I don't like access.
Josh:I think we all have too much access because everybody self-diagnoses themselves. Everybody reads all the world news.
Josh:It's just like a constant feed of stimulation and, quite frankly, bullshit yeah like you can look at it like statistically, like 85 of the things you dwell on are not happening, or to yourself or people around, when you're like, well, maybe it's just and you get on good, like it's just. Sometimes I was like I don't want to fucking know anything. Like I told my dad that they were talking, I said how the fuck did anyone get on with anything 25, 30 years ago? How do we fucking manage anything? Yeah, people just didn't think about the shit that we think about now.
Josh:Well, I mean you got old folks I'm in my family too that fucking smoked eat like shit and live to be 95 and not a fucking care in the world.
Zach:Well, there's something about. You're talking about access, this information overload, and people have talked about this before. It's nothing new I'm coming up with, but it's that, with so much access to the world's events, people find it a lot easier to attach themselves to a position. Just put in whatever position. Say, your thing is climate change, okay, fine, sure, people find it a lot easier to research and look into and have an opinion and voice that opinion and go back and forth with people on social media about X, say climate change, or you know Palestine, or you know immigrants or whatever the fuck. You put in, whatever you want.
Zach:People find a lot easier to attach themselves to a position and argue that position and try to advance their position over social media than actually fixing shit in their own life, because that's actually harder, do you think? So it's a lot easier to just argue about these big concepts that are far-reaching, you know, either across the world or across the country or whatever. They have these far-reaching implications and they're going to take a stand and fight and activists and all this kind of crap. Because that's a lot easier. Because, at the end of the day, if it doesn't actually succeed, well, it's just because it's a long road ahead. And you know you may not accomplish anything like the climate activists know you may not accomplish anything like the climate activists, you may not accomplish a fucking thing, but you were part of a movement and you've advanced the movement forward. Meanwhile, your like personal life is kind of shit. Well, do you think you know what I mean? Because it's easier to do that thing than it is to actually do what you're supposed to do in your own life.
Josh:Do you think that stems from the majority of folks and I know there's exceptions to the rule Do you think the majority of folks, especially people that you're describing, are just? I think everyone's just looking for a place to belong.
Zach:Well, I think that's what I'm saying. My overall point is they attach themselves to these movements and these things because it's easier that they're taking the easy way out instead of doing the hard thing, like everybody. It's the same thing.
Josh:Everybody just wants to take a fucking pill to fix their problems instead of doing the hard thing that's necessary for me, because I and I mentioned to you guys about therapy and stuff, but like I have people, I can just like. I always feel better if I can talk to somebody.
Zach:Yeah.
Josh:I think more people just need to be able to talk. So, even if it's one part, you got to talk to somebody, especially for us men, because we don't talk about our feelings. Like I have a few people that I can talk to about unbiased opinions, but I'm not talking about like, of course, I have my parents and I have a wife and all that, but sometimes I don't want a solution. I want you just to shut up and listen and then I want you to talk about your problems too, and I want us to have that conversation, have that relationship to where we might have something in common, like, okay, cool, and you just end up feeling better about it. They always do that.
Josh:Anytime your friends or someone you know it's hard to say or someone kills themselves, they're like well, I should have talked to him and stuff. I'm like, well, we don't. Like you might go months or months without you. Like I usually call people and be like hey, what's going on? Like what's up? How are you doing Like what's what's up? Like with this group? Because, well, I feel that same way too about that particular subject. Maybe this is where I belong.
Zach:Let me get in here with this shit startup crew yeah, and when you do that you don't have to actually succeed in the thing.
Zach:No.
Zach:It's just vocalizing your opinion and being part of this movement is accomplishment enough. You don't actually have to accomplish the goal. You know what I'm saying?
Josh:I think that also adds to the disconnect people have like as far as people to people like you don't see, like yeah everybody's done, everything's done through the internet, yeah, so you have you don't have people like I mean, if I can go to you, go to a coffee shop and no one speaks yeah, everyone's on the on the internet or they're with their own world. There's no more like conversing in a group.
Zach:No, people don't know what to do. People don't treat people individually anymore. They treat them as sides. They're on my side and they're on the other side. Right, you're of whatever X issue. Sometimes it kind of gloms together, but there's the climate activists and then there's the climate deniers. There's nobody in between. I think it's just.
Josh:It's how everybody sees it trying to find somewhere to belong. You know, if you, like you said, if your personal life is shitty, you don't have a relationship with anybody, you don't have anyone to go to, you don't have friends, you don't have church, you don't have a work group, you don't have anything, if you work from home.
Zach:That's all you know and if you live your entire life online like here's another example is like you know you, you would see people as like oh, that's an anti-vaxxer. No, actually, that's Bob. He lives down. He's your fucking neighbor.
Josh:You know what I?
Zach:mean yeah, it's you know what I mean. So or you know that's he. He goes to the same store as you do you actually.
Josh:I didn't the human element out of all of these positions, and they don't treat people like people anymore. They treat them as sides of an issue. I think that's why you also I start to hear nowadays too, like the last five years or so, where people are, I hear more people say they hate being around people. They don't like crowds. I don't like people like I don't like gross people.
Zach:I don't, yeah, but I don't I don't like crowds, I don't mind, that's just a that's not a that's not that disliking people, it's just, it's the I'm talking like I have friends.
Josh:The fucking noise of it all, like just are totally stimulus, yeah, I sometimes I'm just like fuck, I just don't want to be around this.
Zach:Maybe I just want to. I mean, I'm kind of like that, you know me I'm. I'm like a um what they?
Josh:well, yeah, extroverted, introvert, you have a social meter, I have a and when it's fucking tapped out, I got to bounce. But I've met folks that are like just despise other people as far as people in general, and I'm not talking about yeah, I don't walk into a stadium and be bumper to bumper with somebody Like I get. Obviously You're talking about like motherfucker, this is the way the world works. There's going to be people here. I don't want to tell you.
Zach:People make all the shit. You have what they mean. I think what the people mean when they say they don't want to go to the store because there's people there is because they don't want to take the. Don't really leave my house in fucking rags. Like I put my clothes. I put clothes on. I'm not walking out of this house in fucking pajamas, I got you. When people do that, it drives me fucking nuts.
Josh:I hate it so much. We went to the soccer fields and a guy walked out younger dude in like pink flannel pajama pants, yes, and as he walks out into some shitty t-shirt, his hair's all fucked up. Yeah, he's like fixing his dick.
Zach:Right His underwear.
Josh:I'm like well, you just you just came out and you were like this is what I'm gonna wear today, like if it's if it's in the middle of the fucking night and you like you know you, that's fine, nobody's out, everyone's asleep. That's fine.
Zach:It's an emergency, you've got to run, you don't need time to dress appropriately, but if it's in the middle of the day, the day is going on, put some fucking normal clothes on. So what people really say when they don't I think when they say I don't want to be around people or I don't want to see people is what it is is they don't want to put the effort to actually put some fucking normal clothes on and they don't want to run into anybody that they know.
Josh:Yeah, because I don't like gross people. Gross people make me uncomfortable. What's your description? It's like when I see this mongoloid in a group wearing yesterday's pajamas yes, and their hair's greasy.
Zach:Girls are the biggest offenders.
Zach:Generally, I think girls are the biggest offenders Hot take Hot. I think girls are the biggest offenders of this Hot.
Zach:Take right here. Girls. You know you do this. You know you fucking run out of the house in some raggedy-ass sweats and bullshit. You need to put some normal-ass clothes on and actually be a part of the day, but with one exception.
Josh:You can do that if you're hot. Again hot privilege trumps everything.
Zach:Everything. In fact you should wear literal r rags like tattered into pieces to where we can see things estella warren, tim burton's uh right, yes, like post-apocalyptic you can wear those like, yes, like a loincloth like yes.
Josh:What we're saying is you can dress like a slob if you're hot yes, it sounds shallow.
Zach:Even if the clothes are like a little dirty, it doesn't matter, you're hot.
Josh:You're still hot anytime we see something like can't believe that, yeah, because they're hot, like she's hot, it's fine. I just want to make sure everyone knew that we were not right. You can't be gross and busted.
Zach:That's what we're saying that is, uh, I think that's. That is the supreme law. It sits above everything else. That we say is if you're hot, you can get away that's what I ask people.
Josh:I'll hear like people bantering. They're like you know. Can you believe that person did the yada yada? I'm like was she hot? Does that matter? Yeah, it is the most, it's the only thing that matters in this conversation, because if she's fucking crazy, I'm like you can't be gross and a bitch, yes.
Zach:Sorry, yes, Like if you saw. I mean listen, ladies, don't act like you're, you know, above the aesthetics here either. Yeah, if you were in the grocery store and you were walking by Jack Black in a fucking you know tank top and sweat and sweats, you'd be like, oh, but it wasn't Jack Black, it was like a Jack Black.
Zach:You can just say an IT guy, yeah, and you're like you're like you would like you know, go on the other side of the aisle whenever he walked past. You fucking would like you know, go on the other side of the aisle whenever he walked past. You fucking know it right.
Josh:But if it was insert, you know super ripped dude, you know, or just a really attractive guy attractive guy.
Zach:Right, it was uh fucking hot dude, henry cavill, walking by and he was wearing the exact same fucking thing sweats and a tank top. Yeah, you know, you would find a reason to bump into him. You know what I'm saying?
Josh:I think just a nice face in general for dudes. If you got the chiseled cheek, whatever.
Zach:Girls, don't act like you're above the physical appearance. We're just a bunch of gross apes over here. Now you can. You all subscribe to this rule as well.
Josh:When you're hot, you can get away with some shit. I just like how I had to get that. You can't be to this rule as well. Yeah, back to what you're hot, you can get away with some shit. I just like how I had to get to here Like you can't be dressing like that unless you're hot, unless you're. Did we say something about that dude from Euphoria? That's a. It's a dude.
Zach:He, she Tits.
Josh:Yeah, we're like yeah, but dude's got nice tits.
Zach:Yeah, gray, out there, it's getting a little gray, that particular guy.
Josh:Yeah, unless you know, we see the hardware sometimes first. I've seen the hardware, yeah, but like the added hardware first glance.
Zach:If you never saw the hardware, no one ever told you like, hey, you know that used to be a dude. My, you know my mind already went there. I'm sorry, it already went through the system. It's been ran it went through the system and they passed, yeah, and then I get information later and I'm like oh, so there's can I see your teeth. The system isn't perfect. That's all I'm saying. Sometimes some, some, some things slip through the yeah through the cracks that particular situation. I was like surgeons are getting real good these days.
Josh:Well, makeup does a lot of work, that one was done really well. Yes, cause I had a friend of mine that did not know.
Zach:I didn't. When I first started watching that show euphoria I didn't pick. I must've missed a piece of dialogue, uh, and I didn't know for like half the fucking season one, and then there was one season with a scene where they like laid down on the bed and I was, like is?
Josh:that a dick. I did the same thing, holy shit, yeah. And then I think that's now. I don't know if it's still there or not, but I've seen interviews with what's dude fixed up. It's a pretty woman.
Zach:Yeah.
Josh:That's all I'm going to say Sorry, dude's got nice tits. It is what it is. If you're going to do it, that's 100% man. 100% male Will never be a woman. But nice tits, as Matthew McConaughey says, don't half-ass it.
Zach:That's what his dad said Whatever you do, don't half-ass it. When you're hot, you get away with a lot of shit. When you're hot, you're hot Sorry. I mean, you know, if it was. You don't see a lot of examples, at least maybe not in popular media of female to male.
Josh:Oh yeah. Well you know what I?
Zach:mean, you mean like good ones, yeah, yeah, to where they pass 100% and they fool you.
Josh:I saw some on some Instagram one time that I've sent to you, you guys, and I was like can y'all believe this? And I was like no way like that's actually a woman yeah, it was yeah like, but converted over and it's I mean I'm talking about beard bicep like? Look like straight up.
Zach:But it looks like a, like a, like a 10, like a 10 on a dude on the female I'm talking like a seven, like a seven or eight women would be like oh, that's a hot ass dude.
Josh:Yes.
Zach:Yeah.
Josh:Not very many. Usually the transition is a scratch CD.
Zach:Yeah, I think it's rare yeah.
Josh:Yeah, I don't know. I don't. You know, it's not something I search daily, but if it comes across I gotta know or I'll be like, is that? Let Let me look real quick. That's got to be.
Zach:Just imagine you see a ripped-ass dude like the Rock or Jason Momoa Just fucking ripped big-ass dude and got a pussy. That's fucking wild.
Josh:I follow a former pro wrestler who is now a woman. I follow him because it's a great page for nutrition. They're a big nutritionist and workout and I love the content. So I was like whatever dude, but I love the content.
Zach:There's a political commentator that I do follow. That I really only follow because they have an unorthodox take on the whole trans issue. Being trans themselves, they're actually on the right, blair white is the name of the.
Josh:I think I've heard of that.
Zach:I've heard that name and so I do follow, follow them um yeah, whatever you can say, it's fine, um, it's our show, because they they're not crazy and they actually. That's how they actually the the way that, uh, it would say it was. They say it openly. I know I'm not a woman, but I'm cosplaying as one because it's the only way I can feel better about myself. I'm a rarity and blah, blah, blah and all this kind of stuff.
Josh:I don't know Blair.
Zach:White. Yeah, blair White, that's a dude. Normal that's a dude. They got a normal take. I don't just agree with everything that they say in this particular shoot.
Josh:We're not cruel people yeah right. Wow, I didn't know that was a dude.
Zach:That's what I'm saying. I think it's harder for women.
Josh:The other way around.
Zach:I've seen a couple that female to male, man to woman or woman to man, where it's a woman trying to pass as a dude. Usually they don't do it as well.
Josh:Yeah, there again, you have to be hot.
Zach:Well, I think it's because women are also smaller in general.
Zach:And they have a certain shape.
Zach:Sure.
Zach:Right, that just looks weird as a dude. You know what I mean.
Josh:Yeah.
Zach:And they can't grow the hair, the facial hair. But some of them, I don't know, I've seen ones with straight up beards.
Josh:How much money you got. I've saw a dude Dude had a great beard.
Zach:And I've seen those jokes online. It was like oh, you're not ugly, You're just poor. Exactly right.
Josh:Yeah, you're just poor. Happiness. That's just something poor people say. That's 100%. Yeah, shut up it does. It would fix 99.9% of your problems. I shared that with you the other day where it was like a study was done.
Zach:It was like, yes, money can bring happiness and apparently there's no limit to it. Yeah, 100%.
Josh:If you don't agree with that, you're stupid. I'm sorry, I will die on that hill. You're an idiot pretty much yeah like it. I'm not saying it will make you if you're a shitty person, I mean you're a better person but it's gonna fix no, it's gonna fix all your problems make you a better person. That's not the conversation fix your problems will it make you happier?
Zach:yes, yeah, that's. That's what we're talking. We're not saying will it? Will it bring you more joy? Will it make your life more fulfilled? That's not not the question Happiness is a very specific emotion.
Josh:And it's up to you and it is fleeting.
Zach:Yeah, right, but if you have more money and keep it going, you can keep that feeling going. That's exactly right. You know what I mean.
Josh:If you're chasing that feeling you can chase it longer.
Zach:Exactly.
Josh:Now, like I get bored with my'm sad. Yes, could I buy more things when? I'm sad Instead of a t-shirt, I can buy a truck Exactly.
Zach:It has diminishing returns. Yes, so I need more money to buy more stuff faster so that I can keep up. We sound like drug addicts.
Josh:Are you going to take on new problems with that money? Yeah, of course you will, depending on the amount, whatever what is? And are you going to take on new problems with that money? Yeah, sure, of course you will, depending on the amount, whatever. But yeah, don't tell me it's not. It would. There'd be signs if I had a lot of money, exactly.
Zach:Being poor. It makes things harder, Of course. It does Obviously Ask a poor person.
Josh:Why You're right is giving away money. Yeah, you know how he's improving. Anytime he sees someone on the phone, he's like, hey, what's going on? I brought you this jacket. Do you know what would make this day better? They're like what, this $5,000 cash? Yeah, you think this would help your trials and tribulations.
Zach:Fuck, yes, it would. And even the people that say, well, you need to go through hardship is actually what molds you and makes you, you know, develop better and you're whatever. But at the end of the day, like, what is the point of just trudging along and fucking grinding and you never become successful? Yeah, like then it just then you're just living in and suck the entire living on what could?
Zach:yeah, that's right, so even the people that say, oh, you know, you got to work hard and you got to grind, so it's like, yeah, but then you got there and now you have money, and that's the happy and then the happy part happens Like?
Josh:is your schedule the same now?
Zach:Is it?
Zach:really.
Josh:Is the hustle the same? Now that you're a multimillionaire. Give me a. Give me a fucking. Is it really? Maybe some Come on, give me a break Would?
Zach:you still be doing all the hard work and the hustle if it never paid off? Fuck no. Fuck no, dude, get the fuck out of here.
Josh:Life's too short, piss off.
Zach:Oh, I know it's like that influencer is making the rounds now. I don't know if you've seen him. It's Ashton something.
Josh:The guy with the glass water bottles and shit. Fuck him. Years ago, jeff Bezos said it too, and I'm not knocking the dude Like I'm not a 1%, I'm not going to ever do what he's done. That's not the point I'm making, but similar comments, similar perception. He was talking about, like you know, everybody should just relax and like wake up, like at 10, you know, and do these things. He's talking about what he does, like we can't fucking do that. Like that guy, that huge I mean he's built like a brick shithouse. Good looking dude. You talking about that big buff black guy.
Zach:Yeah.
Josh:Wakes up at whatever and like, takes his mouth tape off because he sleeps I don't know, alone or whatever. The fuck that works, that beautiful woman that brings his water.
Zach:Yeah.
Josh:And then pulls that off. Is it alkaline?
Zach:water yeah, it's not even labeled. Pours in the bowl yeah, it's not even for like he drinks that water too, but like he's too, like his face is too good for tap water whenever he's just trying to get a little face cold plunge like you got to use. Like I don't bottle water. It's not even plastic's, like in a glass bottle, apparently like the stock price for that company, that water company, fucking skyrocketed after the video. Is it a fuck care you?
Josh:know what I saw, that I didn't want to buy any of that shit, none of it. You know what I want to do. I was like I'm going to show you a video. Actually fucking looks like. Yeah, when everybody's like he wakes up feeling incredible, I'm like no, I fucking don't. Yeah, sometimes I didn't sleep very well. Sometimes I get up and I don't have two bottles of water before I get up. Maybe I do go straight to the coffee pot. Wait, watch me take a piss in the morning.
Zach:The point you make about Jeff Bezos is he didn't do any of that shit. He just had an idea, he had a dream, he had a passion and he fucking ran it down and he did great and he didn't stop right. You don't have to do. That's what kills me about the influencer types like that is that they think that by doing this particular ritual is the reason why they're successful. And I don't like the idea that, unless you do all this weird, crazy wake up in the mark walberg does that bullshit. Fuck him, fuck him like. That's not the reason why he doing all that crap is not the reason why he, mark walberg, was successful who's gonna play golf?
Zach:at fucking noon. That's the dude was successful is because he just didn't stop. He just ran it down. He was a good looking dude back in the day. He had some talent.
Josh:I'm not saying he didn't work hard Right.
Zach:But to say that like you got to do all this weird ritual bullshit and that's like the key to success. Fuck you, that's so stupid.
Josh:Show us what you used to do to get to where you are.
Zach:And if you made it.
Josh:Why are?
Zach:you still doing it, like obviously that stuff is like weird and time, like you're waking up at four in the morning and he didn't they're doing the video. He didn't do fuck all until nine o'clock. So for five fucking hours he was just like doing this ritual. And yeah, I guess he ran on the treadmill. I didn't see him lift. He ran on the treadmill. He kind of like stood on his balcony for a little bit. He ran on the treadmill. He of like stood on his balcony for a little bit. He ran on the treadmill. He swam for like 10 minutes. He's chilled in the pool like he journaled, he watched a bit like he did a bunch of nothing for five hours.
Josh:But you know what I mean. Like show us, if you want it I'm guessing here, like, especially for mark walberg like okay, we know where you are now. Now that you have what kevin hart says is the beauty of money is free time to do the things you want to do.
Zach:Well, like Rob McElhaney when he talked about it, he's like how do you get this body? He's like listen, I'm not going to say that I don't have the advantage here because I've got a chef and a personal trainer. No, you can't get this body. You can't get this body, you don't have time to do this.
Josh:I do because I have money and I can pay someone to do it for me, so show us like, show us what you, what you had to do, like mark warburg wasn't doing those things when he was trying to make it. No, like don't show us what money has allowed you to have this, because if I was a millionaire I could show you my routine. Yes, get up when the sun comes up, ground myself in the grass my fucking feet, like whatever. Yeah, but no, that's not showing eight to fivers fucking and also that's not for everybody.
Zach:The whole point of the one percent of these high performing people is that if everybody did it, then you, you're no longer special.
Josh:So not everybody can do this it's okay and I will say this and maybe just for my own benefit, it's okay to be an eight to fiver. I just want everybody to know that it's okay, it's okay, you don't have to be these high, whatever those kind of people are called.
Zach:But watching that. I wouldn't want to do that Watching that. Why would I want to get up at four in the morning to do a bunch of weird shit that?
Josh:to me like I just don't better as somebody who's pretty active and tries to do the things yes and who's a medical hypochondriac, right? I mean, did you really feel that much better by doing those things?
Zach:yes, like and fuck you. That's.
Zach:That's my thing about that, especially that guy's videos like the first meeting he actually like, does or takes or whatever, which is I guess his job is and I think he's a, he's a lifestyle coach or some shit he's's probably he might be good at it, he does like a, a zoom meeting or whatever, like at nine o'clock, Right, but he woke up before 4 am, yeah, so you're trying to tell and and obviously his job is what makes his money, and he was talking about, well, I guess we'll just say 10,000 or whatever he says on the video. So range in that one fucking call, right? Okay, fine, so he makes a bunch of money and obviously the stuff that he buys and where he lives he's a very wealthy dude, right, and he's self-made, apparently. Okay, fine, you can't tell me that you have to do all this bullshit, for five hours translates to tens of thousands of dollars in this deal.
Zach:I know that you can truncate that and you can minimize that five hours down to an hour or two to get yourself ready for the day. You ain't got to do fucking five hours of whatever the hell that was. You know what I'm saying? Like, look at Elon Musk, for fuck's sake. The dude is in the shape of a fucking potato, he's not doing all that bullshit and he's the richest man in the world. Yeah, I don't know, he's not waking up at fucking 4 am and putting bananas on his face. It's social media man.
Josh:We all watched it.
Zach:It's so stupid. It's views. We watched it, I know. I know it's so dumb.
Josh:I know that people run their businesses. I use social media and AI for business stuff and we use it for this and, like you said, it's not going anywhere. You can't just cut the cord on it.
Zach:It's got its place. It's got its place. Just don't bullshit us. That's bullshit. I'm sorry that dude doing all that and people like that it's bullshit. Yeah, it doesn't impress me.
Josh:No, there's the dave and goggins people. There's the I like cameron haynes. There's some people that are high performers that you know that do a realistic thing like. But you know it's also like jerry seinfeld did an interview a while back where he was talking about why is everything just about money? And it's. This motherfucker is loaded yeah they wanted to all just become about money. Yeah, yeah, what do you mean? It's easy to say you can't say that stupid yeah.
Zach:And exactly right, it's easy to say that. Say that to the people that are trying to make ends meet, who can't buy fucking groceries? Exactly.
Josh:I don't want to listen to rich.
Zach:If their car broke down, they're going to have to start taking the fucking bus because they don't have the money to repair their car.
Josh:You, they don't have the money to repair their car. You know like that. Well, it is kind of shitty too. I heard on a different perspective. If you're gonna, if you flip it, flip the script. It's like when all those houses got burned up and lost in in california. Yeah, everybody was just kind of like, yeah, you'll buy another one, you're a millionaire, what are you crying about? Where it's kind of like damn man, like yeah, have a little humility about that. It still sucks. The dude's like lost his house, yeah, I know, but we're just kind of like and we all do it.
Josh:I'm like, yeah, just buy another one, like piss off.
Zach:I think that's my probably.
Zach:We'll maybe leave it with this because, we're about to hit two hours yeah.
Zach:Is. I don't like the whole eat the rich thing but at the same time, like you know, easy it is, and money doesn't really matter that much. Once you get to that point, right, you know I'm saying I'll say that you deserve your money and I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna vilify you for it. But don't talk, don't feed me a bunch of bullshit about how money doesn't matter, correct? So if we make that deal, then I think we'll get along.
Josh:I'm not one to attack ceos, I don't. I don't get upset that people in my are upper than me, make more money than me. I. I don't care, don't give a fuck, because if I made it I would okay. Great cool.
Zach:Because it's not a zero-sum game. Them being rich doesn't mean that them being rich is not at the cost of me being poor. They're not the reason why I'm not poor. I'm just saying the reason why I don't have as much money as they do is because they have that money. You know what I'm saying? They didn't steal anything from me.
Josh:Correct. Yeah, I agree, yeah, it's, you know, I don't know the power to them.
Zach:They just don't feed me a bunch of bullshit.
Josh:Yeah, it was funny I heard that take when people were like you know I didn't bash any person. I don't want anybody to lose their home, whether or have to pay for it, regardless if they have the this mass amount of money and I'm guilty of it, tlc's money, you know somebody's test like burned up or whatever they've got like four other cars like fuck it was by insurance, fuck you like whatever. But still, I don't want anybody losing their shit. But it's kind of like you said you're attacking the road, would you say eating the rich like eat the eat the rich thing.
Zach:Yeah, well, it's, it's like, uh, you know, to maybe tie this all back to the, the beginning of the conversation, where you were talking about comparison is the thief of joy.
Josh:Yeah, I think.
Zach:Too many people take it too far, to where not only is comparison the thief of joy, but comparison is the precursor to hatred.
Zach:Yeah.
Zach:Because not only does it steal their joy, right, but it actually turns them into hateful people. And so, when you're comparing yourself to other people, all the time it turns, I'm about to say, like the Jedi thing, where it's like fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.
Josh:It's like that, it's true.
Zach:Is that you know you cannot if you compare yourselves to these rich people. They didn't do anything to you Outside people that scam people, and that does happen from time to time.
Zach:But in general, the reason why people are rich is not because they took anything from you. Stop comparing yourselves to rich people and handle your own shit, and so it not only you just recognize whenever you're comparing yourself to rich people, you're not just stealing your own joy, but you're converting that joy into into anger and hatred for that individual when it's just a person that's just a person that had different circumstances.
Zach:They made the right moves, they got a little lucky, they had some help, yeah, and it just was in the cards for them and it was not in the cards for you, and that's okay fucking find your thing.
Josh:Exactly right, exactly right, I agree maybe you're, I'm guessing.
Zach:Sorry. Sorry, but not everybody's thing can't be a multi-billionaire living on a yacht, sorry nope, there's not.
Josh:He's got normal folks working for him to build the yacht.
Zach:Exactly that yacht has got some normal folks on it.
Josh:Exactly right 100%.
Zach:You got to have the normal folks yeah.
Josh:I think that's a good yeah good to tie that back in and we are normal folk.
Zach:Yeah, I'm normal dude. I don't know about normal to you. If we ever make it and we get to that point, I'm not going to feed you a bunch of bullshit about how I got there, I'm lazy. You have to do it this way.
Josh:I will tell you that I'm lazy.
Zach:I'll tell you straight up that you're right, Because I'm lazy. And also, if we ever make it, I'll speak for myself. If I ever make it quote, make it is because I overcame my procrastination somehow, Right, and also I sacked up and actually took a risk and that's how we made it. Otherwise I'm not going to feed you some crap about energy, or you've got to wake up at 4 am and you've got to do this routine.
Josh:If I ever snap and become an adult, like mentally, there'll be signs.
Zach:Yeah.
Josh:And I'll let people know that I finally manned up Right. Stop being a fucking 19-year-old, yeah.
Zach:Speaking of which, maybe we'll talk about this at a future episode, because we kind of wavered off half this episode.
Zach:It's not even about movies or whatever, but it happens, sorry.
Zach:You had your midlife crisis at 30.
Josh:35 is coming.
Zach:35 is coming, but really I've got to be here for the 40. That's the one that's going to be the doozy.
Josh:Lord willing, I make it to 40. Yeah, 35. You already started, there you go 35 is going to be rough, I can tell you. Yeah, we can discuss that.
Zach:That's coming up soon, right.
Josh:It is. It's in May.
Zach:Yeah, I get to work on my birthday.
Zach:That's nice.
Zach:Maybe we should do, if you think it's going to hit on 35. It's going to. Why?
Josh:35? I don't know.
Zach:I didn't know 30 was going to hit.
Josh:Okay, we don't want to get down that there's a lot of things I can do. Okay, sure, actually my birthday is on a sunday this year hey, so we can record on my birthday if you want to okay, we'll do that, all right.
Zach:Well, uh, guess, let's wrap this up. Yeah, I'll take us out.
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