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#76 - Dr Doom's a Trick, Silver Surfer's a Chick, and Kanye Likes Dick

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Zach and Josh are cackling through the dumpster fire of pop culture! Kanye’s spilling cousin-kissing tea, Joe Rogan’s platforming wackos like Candace “Space is Fake and Gay” Owens, and Hollywood’s still screwing up stars like Bieber. Josh fangirls over Casablanca’s slick vibes but yawns at Gone with the Wind’s marathon runtime. Zach digs Captain America: Brave New World’s Red Hulk chaos but groans at its preachy bits and Andor Season 2’s snooze-fest jungle drama. Oh, and Righteous Gemstones? It’s a riot with more dicks than a Satanist milk vat. The boys plan a bro-date for Sinners and Thunderbolts, drool over a female Silver Surfer, and bet RDJ’s Doom is just an Iron Man fake-out. Buckle up for laughs, rants, and way too much titty talk!

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Zach:

Hey everybody, welcome to the Infinite Weekend Podcast, episode 76, zach and Josh. What's up? So the news? Have you heard one of the weirdest things that's going on right now?

Josh:

Nope, I've been out of the news for a while, kanye.

Zach:

West is crazy. I did know that, right, he's a. You know he like thinks Hitler is cool and he wears like blacked out mask and he princes. You know parades is like now ex-wife around naked and all this kind of weird stuff.

Josh:

I did see the picture where he brought her to some awards and she was naked. She had a nice body, but it was. But I'm not surprised by his behavior.

Zach:

Well, apparently that he like blew his cousin once when he was 14. 14? Yeah, so he knew what he was doing. Incest. It's minor yeah.

Josh:

Wow, well, didn't, didn't, jeff? Was it Jeffrey Starr that just came forward and said that they were a thing?

Zach:

Yeah, that's where. That's where like, oh okay, Jeffrey Starr was like, came out, was like he's like, I guess, was like I'm not gonna hide it anymore, or fuck it. It was like fuck it, it happened, the rumors are true, they, they banged yeah, apparently and then Kanye West like ups the ante and is like, yeah, well, I blew my cousin when I was 14.

Josh:

What if Jeffree Star was probably like damn man alright. I didn't know that when we were hooking up, I could see Kanye being like your turn. Everybody knows the wild shit I do. Jeffree Star is an interesting character. I watched him in some interviews. That's an odd cat. Apparently he hooks up with a lot of celeb dudes, basketball players. I don't know man. It must be just an itch that they want scratched. I don't know man.

Zach:

I guess whenever you're like a super famous person, you've banged everything that's moved. Where's that?

Josh:

I feel like especially in the Hollywood the post moves a bit.

Zach:

I feel, like, especially in the Hollywood ecosystem, you're eventually going to bang some dudes.

Josh:

It's just like you probably start with, like you know, feminine a ditty yeah, I'm saying chicks with dicks and shit, like yeah, like when does it?

Zach:

and then you, then, you, then, you follow along getting manhandled by some dudes I don't know jeffrey star's like, he's like a farmer and like gun person.

Josh:

But likes it all to be kind of conservative develops his own make, as that's a wild dude man, but fucks dudes, but fucks dudes yeah this kind of you know does the makeup and the nails too.

Zach:

Oh yeah, I think he's mentioned before.

Josh:

He's just like he's probably that dude from.

Zach:

He's like the prince of dorne yeah, this pleases me, this, this, this brings me pleasure, and this brings me pleasure, that's gross yeah, it was weird, but it's a hell of a sword, a hell of a bow. Staffman, yeah I know, so know. I don't think there's any coming back for Kanye. No.

Zach:

I think, he's like leaning into it. Now I think he's just like you know what? Any thought that pops in his head he's like and he probably makes a bunch of shit up too, but he's like, now that guy, that's just the crazy conspiracy theory type dude.

Josh:

They all need help. He's just straight up. They all need help. Man, a hundred percent. It was a while there when he was. He was all right Like he was. Don't get me wrong. Some of his older music I still have on my playlist for the gym. He's got some bad ass songs. Oh yeah.

Josh:

But there was a stint there when he was kind of like coming out of that and you're like all right, I can get on board with some of that shit, whatever. And then like they just I don't know man, oh, his music's awesome especially his early shit.

Zach:

I don't know. I don't know when he went, probably when he married Kardashian. Kim Kardashian is when he went off the fucking rails and then she was somehow you know, with the family.

Josh:

You know having kids and being married kept him somewhat sane.

Zach:

Yeah, and then the divorce happened and then he went fucking.

Josh:

He's like I'm crazy, yeah. Yeah, there were stages. We're seeing his real, the real person he is, yeah I think so.

Zach:

Yeah, I mean he's just by. I mean it's clear he's bipolar, like whenever he was doing well, he was probably depressed as shit, right, and then, uh, but he was working and doing his music, everything, and then he goes manic, yeah, and then he's, that's working and doing his music and everything. And then he goes manic, yeah, and then he's, that's where he loses his shit, and he wears all blacked out fucking clothing and talks about Hitler Like okay.

Josh:

Yeah, but Hollywood dress is really weird. Anyway. Have you seen the way Justin Bieber dresses?

Zach:

Looks like an idiot. I don't understand. Like I get that again. Hollywood fucked him up too. Yeah, they did. Clearly did he fucked him yeah, and obviously that's what's happened, yeah and uh.

Zach:

You know he was like probably passed around and he was also given all sorts of pleasures. You know, I'm saying like I guarantee that the hollywood fucked him up, the whole diddy thing fucked him up. So I kind of gave him a pass on that. But it's like also, you don't like if you just wallow in this like ugliness, like that can't be good for your mental health. Like, dress nice, it's not. Like dress normal, like if you dress gross and ugly and just like a fucking bum, then it's going to affect your mood.

Josh:

It does. Well, he's married to I don't know.

Zach:

So you know like a model.

Josh:

So I don't know, it's very.

Zach:

I don't know. I used to want to meet him. I don't really want to anymore. Neither one of them. No, he looks like he steals catalytic converters now.

Josh:

Yeah, it washes inside windows. Yeah, right.

Zach:

Yeah, exactly, very familiar with Narcan.

Josh:

But no, I didn't know any of this was going on. Yeah, I just knew the Jeffree Star thing, but I didn't know about the other shit blowing a 14-year-old cousin or some shit. I didn't know that.

Zach:

Well, I guess they were both underage. It wasn't like last week.

Josh:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's fine, I got you. That would not be good for his career, but you know what?

Zach:

I mean, Like, how old is Kanye? It's got to be close to 50. It's got to be in his 40s, right, Look, mid 40s for sure. But like you go, you know 30 years, 30 to 40 years, like 47.

Josh:

There you go. Too fucking old to be sharing that kind of news. That's what I'm saying.

Zach:

You go 30 something years and you don't like tell nobody that you blew your cousin one time. I mean it's like the women and then all of a sudden you just like fuck it Twitter and you just tell everybody yeah.

Josh:

It's like I can't imagine. It's like these women coming forward Like that, like he raped me and it's been like 40 years. It's like and then all the women come forward, Then that one Kobe.

Zach:

Bryant, pretty much everybody, whether it's, I mean, sometimes it's true, sometimes it's not, it's just who the fuck knows? There's no way to know.

Josh:

I love that whole. Thing.

Zach:

Basically, I've learned that being famous sucks.

Josh:

Don't do it I think you have to do it right. There's a wrong and right way. That's true. Killian Murphy does it right.

Zach:

Yeah.

Josh:

I mean detached.

Zach:

He's famous but reluctantly like not by choice, you can go where he lives and catch him at like a local pub.

Josh:

That's what I'm saying. Everything's very private.

Zach:

It's cool. He just has to get dragged into the fan club. He just likes to act.

Josh:

I don't want any part of it. Have you seen that recent podcast that Theo Vaughn did with Ben Affleck? No, this past week Ben Affleck came on and did a podcast. It's good and I like how? Because theo vaughn brought up why he always looks like. It's like when they get pictures of him they show he always looks like he's about to kill himself.

Josh:

He's like yeah he's like but imagine someone always getting a picture of you when you're fucking mad, or like they catch you at the worst time. He's like I'm standing outside trying to relax, or I got my kids with me, and this one's like hey, ben, why you look so sad? And he's like because you won't fucking leave me alone. Yeah, he's like so. Imagine every time they piss you off, they get a picture of it. Yeah, but he is also like doesn't like hollywood, but loves still loves to produce and act.

Zach:

He just doesn't want to be a part of it. He likes the industry. He doesn't like yeah, he doesn't want bullshit anything else with it.

Josh:

He's a cool guy man.

Zach:

The interview's good, I like Ben Affleck. I do too. I think I like him better than Matt Damon. I think Matt Damon's kind of fake.

Josh:

I don't know if it's. I don't know if it's fake, I don't, I don't know, I still. I mean he's a great actor, but I don't know what it is. It's he doesn't well he does.

Zach:

There's every time I see an interview. He also is one of the those actors that feels like they need to get into politics. And you know, fine, whatever you have your opinion, but whenever they really get into politics, like fucking george clooney's, like really like dicaprio is like super into climate change, like okay, fine or uh, tom hanks is another tom hanks A lot. Okay, have your opinions like everybody else, that's fine. But whenever you almost make it more your thing than your primary profession, which is acting, that's whenever it gets old.

Josh:

Dolly Parton said it best. She's like I'm here to entertain you. That's all I'm doing. I'm not an expert. I'm not giving my opinion on anything besides the fact that I'm going to entertain you.

Zach:

That's my opinion on anything besides the fact that I'm going to entertain you and that's it. But that's the sense I get whenever I hear Matt Damon talk about anything political is like it's good, he's got this air about him Like he sucks his own dick.

Josh:

Yeah, A little bit. Yeah, I like how they all were like, if he gets it or Trump gets it, I'm moving like okay, so move uh, Rosie O'Donnell, she fucking did it. She did it.

Zach:

And then they fucking hate her over there.

Josh:

Yeah, they're like great, bring your shit over here. God dang it and take her back the podcast lately. Well, the ones that, whichever ones you follow, but like Joe Rogan's has been really good lately, Like he's had some really cool guests.

Zach:

He's had some, actually some. I mean yeah, he's always had some cool guests.

Josh:

He's had some A-list celebrities that I would not. Five years ago, I would not have thought they would ever.

Zach:

There's a bit of a controversy lately with him, though, on his podcast.

Josh:

Is there.

Zach:

Yeah, about what I'm going to. Only get too deep into it because it's like some fucking level of politics that like hits me hard.

Josh:

Oh, okay, I got you.

Zach:

But nobody would really care. But I mean, the long and the short of it is that he's had on, uh, he's had on a string of kind of uh, conspiracy theorist type people on the right, they're a little, they're iffy, they're a little. Jew haiti, they're a little.

Josh:

Maybe hillary wasn't that bad, kai see, okay, yeah, but he also has a very diverse. Well, he does, but people I, because he's so curious.

Zach:

Well, I guess he was having a string of those come on, and so it kind of was like okay, what's going on here? We need to balance this out.

Josh:

We're seeing a trend.

Zach:

Yeah, we're seeing a trend. So there's an author and journalist named Douglas Murray that went on there. He's from the UK, gay man, and I don't know why that matters, but just add flavor, they'll put it on there too. Yeah, right, but he's a political commentator, but mostly an author, journalist, and he has been on there before and he went on there to talk about this particular issue and it also was kind of centered around. He just wrote a book outlining his experience and what he saw and basically, is doing the journalism thing over in Israel-Palestine thing going on or whatever right the conflict.

Zach:

So he goes on Rogan to talk about his book and then they, of course, being that that's the subject matter Rogan brings on, he's like I'm going to bring on my buddy who's a comic, who is not really a comic anymore, he's more of a political commentator on a podcast who don't know shit named Dave Smith.

Zach:

So he comes on there and basically they debate and have at it back and forth and pretty much, depending on where you already landed, is is where you see that debate went down. But um, but it's douglas murray was going there, basically kind of chiding rogan saying hey, listen like, and also day smith saying hey, look like you're, you're free to say whatever you want to say. But like people coming on here and saying, like hitler wasn't that bad and that winston churchill was the real villain of world war ii and there's no pushback on that, let's know, like really dude, and you don't have the other side, kind of coming to me like you know, someone who has studied history their entire life, not just some random fucking guy that's read some articles you know, I didn't see where it would look.

Zach:

Bad it looked, looked bad. And so it looks bad on Rogan's part and then also the next, very, very next episode. I think he was on with Tim Dillon, who's hilarious, also gay, he's a comic and he's wild, and they were like kind of like making fun of Douglas Murray and it was kind of weird for Joe to do that. He's not really he usually doesn't make fun of anybody. He'll make fun of people, but not like his friends and not in a way that was like it was unfair.

Josh:

I started the ones after Tim Dillon.

Zach:

Then he had on. There was a big controversy going back and forth on the Twitterverse. I suppose that's the reason why most people don't know any. This is mostly like a controversy that lives online. Only you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't have Twitter.

Josh:

Nobody fucking knows I gotcha.

Zach:

So, but someone who does kind of like imbibe in those waters. It's a problem to where. There's too many conspiracy theorist people that are mostly right-leaning, mostly libertarian, that type. They're not liberals, I mean, sometimes maybe they are, but they're definitely not crazy lefties or whatever. But they're on our team, in quote, if you wanted to say that right that are getting a little crazy and some of it's not genuine because they just want it for clicks and engagement.

Zach:

And then some of it probably is genuine. Candace Owens is one of those. Candace Owens went off the fucking deep end and she's like full on anti-Semitic. Now it's crazy, See, I didn't.

Josh:

I'm not keeping her. I usually like Candace Owens a lot yeah.

Zach:

I know I always had any. I always had like this, like something about her just did not sit right with me.

Josh:

I didn't obviously worship her. She had some really unique things to say, especially for a black woman, for sure. But even leaning around I'm like okay, yeah, she says some smart things, but I have not recently seen anything with her. I haven't been watching really any politics stuff.

Zach:

There was a whole controversy with her and she got let go of where she was at. She went independent, and it's a whole thing. She and she got let go of where she was at. She went independent. It's a whole thing.

Josh:

She was with Daily Wire, wasn't she?

Zach:

She was with them and that's where she left, because she got a little too. She was saying some unsavory things. That was towing the line between blood libels about Jews. I think you're right.

Josh:

It's just like the thing we were just talking about. There's a line that's like how far can I push it? Am I relevant anymore? I need more views, or whatever the case may be. But I didn't know that about Joe. I'm finishing up the one with Jordan Peterson. He just said Jordan Peterson, the Jordan.

Zach:

Peterson one.

Josh:

I was going to say it's a great episode.

Zach:

Fantastic. And Jordan does bring up the podcast that he had with Douglas Murray and and I think it's been a few weeks since that podcast with with Murray. So Peterson took a very middle of the road approach but he also got his point across. Was was trying to let Joe know and I think Joe finally kind of got it. You can kind of tell during the podcast was like anybody can say whatever they want, right, but we at some point, if you have certain you have, once you have a large audience, you have a responsibility.

Zach:

yeah to to hold yourself to a standard there's a leadership yeah, there's a standard out there, like you can just, you can be like kanye you just say a bunch of fucking crazy shit and it and millions of ears hear it right. But if you want to be taken seriously, then you're gonna have to hold yourself to a standard that all of the other academics and people with expertise you know. I know we're in this like culture where it's like fuck the experts were wrong, fuck the experts. But you still need experts. You still hold.

Zach:

If you're gonna hold the experts to account and that they fucked up and then reamed their ass, but then you're going to just spout off a bunch of shit when people try to call you out, then you claim that you're getting censored or whatever. No, we're not trying to censor you. We're trying to hold you to an academic standard, to where you can go around saying that Winston Churchill was the villain of World War II. You can do that, you're free to do so. Does that make you right? No, was Winston Churchill a fucking saint? No, did he make some mistakes? Sure. Did he do some things that were probably self-serving?

Josh:

Sure, but was he the villain of World War II?

Zach:

But was Hitler good Right, and so I think that's the implication they're getting to. I basically come down to the conclusion that if you're a conspiracy theory inclined or you like getting to the bottom of things, whether it's JFK or World War II or whatever, stay away from fucking Jews. It's just like a trap. Like don't talk about the Jews, Like just don't.

Josh:

And why would you need to Like, just don't talk about?

Zach:

Israel. Don't talk about Jews. It's a fucking trap.

Josh:

To even get your point across. Why would you need to?

Zach:

Because there's my thing, yeah, well, I mean, it's just like, even if you wanted to talk about the particular conflict in Palestine and Israel, or, and you got criticism, if you're a public person, just stay away from that one, because there's so much more than any other topic. There's so much propaganda out there and misinformation that a normal person is not going to be able to sift through it.

Josh:

Well, it's not civil. It's not a civil conversation.

Zach:

It becomes emotional. It always turns into shit.

Josh:

It becomes violent becomes violent, it becomes. It's just nothing that there's. Yeah, you're right, it's not a good.

Zach:

There's nothing good about it there's nothing wrong with saying like I don't know, no 100 I don't want to talk about that because I don't.

Josh:

I don't know enough, I'm not educated enough in it to be one-sided and I don't want to hear you lecture me. Yeah, there's. There's nothing wrong with that. I respect people to say that. Yeah, I've said it to people. If I don't know, I don't know, especially if they're like I hate the word passionate, but if they're really passionate about what they're saying, I'm like I'm not versed well enough in this to even carry this conversation. I can't.

Zach:

Well, anyway, that was like the past few weeks with the Rogan and with Douglas Murray and Peterson kind of touches on that too where he's had on some questionable folks. And even you know there's a whole, there's a whole cadre of people right now that are that are entertaining these fringe conspiracy level theories and it's you know, stuff, that stuff that's not like well, it's a conspiracy because we don't have enough information. No, there's a ton of information out there. They're just ignoring and cherry-picking things to create this mystery when there isn't one. You know what I mean.

Zach:

Let me ask you this, and Tucker Carlson is one of those he's also brought on some questionable folks and he said some questionable shit. It's just like when he went to Russia and he was talking about how great Russia is and everything's clean and the trains run on time, and you know he went to the grocery store and everything was cheaper in dollars, right, he could get like so much shit for like $3 or whatever Because there's the exchange rate. Stay there. He didn't even understand that the exchange rate is different, that everybody in like Russia like makes $500 a month, right, so it doesn't compare.

Josh:

So it's just shit like that. Let me ask you this, since you're very soon and we don't have to get on a long drought about it Do you think? Do you think that this is happening because our administration has changed and there's not as much to talk about anymore? I think that there was.

Zach:

I think. I think that's. I think there's something to that. Okay, I think it's two things. I just thought of that. I think it's two things.

Zach:

I think it's because Trump won that our side and I put that in air quotes is now energized, rightfully, so, right, we won, or whatever. Well, there's also some shit elements that are taking advantage on our side that are also energized, yeah Right, and we need to be careful. Instead of riding this wave of victory, we need to look in our rear view mirror and check our own house. Yep, make sure it's in order, because we're going to lose sight and we're going to let the crazies out. And that's what happens to the Democrats is they let the crazies?

Josh:

out yeah, 1%.

Zach:

And the fucking inmates were running the prison Right, excuse me, they let the crazies out one percent. And the fucking inmates were running the the prison right, excuse me. And they ended up getting their ass handed to them because everyone was like you guys are fucking crazy. Well, the same thing can happen to the other side.

Josh:

We're not immune to it. Putting on a pedestal. We're yes, we're letting our worst shine, it's like hey, stop, yeah, yeah it's that kind of thing.

Zach:

So we're letting the crazies out. And also trump can do no wrong like I. I think he's made a few missteps. I mean overall, if you were to give it a grade, it's like a fucking A. It's like an A-.

Zach:

It's a few things I didn't like. I don't like so far, but good grades so far, but I don't like what's happening in kind of the recesses and the fringes that they're starting to come out some more, and and the fringes that they're starting to come out some more, and even people that were sensible and high profile, like Tucker Carlson, candace Owens you could say even Joe was entertaining. I think Joe has always been what Joe has been, but he's entertaining some things that he shouldn't entertain.

Josh:

Really, I think that's why I was asking you, because you're a lot more well-versed in it than I am. But that's why I was wondering do you think that has something to do with?

Josh:

it since the narrative has changed so much because of the shift in power that people are like well, I can't talk about Biden, I can't talk about the left, because it's kind of been quiet. Like you said, after our house, whatever has won, it stayed quiet. Now we have these new things. Well, what's the next big thing? It's like well, let's find some shit.

Zach:

But, like you said, it's, as we're riding the wave, like I think that's it, everybody's trying to find their peace, right, that's right and stake their claim on this little area. And you know, if no one has, you know, cornered the market on, you know, hitler wasn't such a bad guy, maybe churchill was the villain, then something, then they're gonna like go in that direction and stake that. I feel like we're just grabbing for some grab followers, just like that claim.

Josh:

I feel like we're just grabbing for something and grab followers. It's like flat earthers. We're just grabbing stuff, dude, just ride it out. You don't have to take people. What's coast?

Zach:

It's like flat earthers. It's the same kind of thing. I attribute it to the same thing. Winston Churchill was not the villain of World War II. Also the earth is round of World War II. Also the earth is round. Like those are the same thing.

Josh:

Yeah, I mean yeah, flat earthers are crazy people.

Zach:

They're retarded Like ancient peoples that were building the fucking pyramids thousands of years ago did simple experiments to know that the earth was fucking round.

Josh:

Yeah, and we're talking about people with like a very low education. Yes, like this. Know, dude, I don't know.

Zach:

It's so stupid. And so Candace Owens, when we were talking about her, like, here's an example where she went fucking crazy. She said that basically NASA is a conspiracy and that space quote space is fake and gay, which is kind of funny. I'm going to look this up later.

Josh:

You've got to look it up.

Zach:

Candace Owens said because she doesn't believe the moon landing happened. She doesn't believe we've actually been to space. It was after, uh, katy Perry went to space with Gayle King and all those you know she went into orbit. Yeah, she went into orbit for 10 minutes, sang a song and then came down. Yeah Right, it was just and that was driving me nuts. They were like first all-female crew. I was like you weren't a crew, you didn't train for years to pilot a vessel into space.

Josh:

I mean, it'd be like me riding on a Southwest flight. I'm like I'm a pilot.

Zach:

Yeah right. No, you're not Pretty much. I'm part of the crew.

Josh:

No, you're not Like, you bought a ticket. Like, yeah, but I airline, yes, come on, man. Like is it neat? Sure, if you got a lot of money, you're fucking bored. Cool, sure, I'd rather be like hey, dude, we went for a hell of a ride yeah, just enjoy it for what it is, but like she's not a fucking hero. No, please, let's don't get on that, on that narrative it's a hero.

Zach:

No, it's silly, but anyway, candace was. Candace was talking about that and then she was basically space is fake and gay. That nasa and that nasa was and she you don't even know. Like she's read some articles, she's like you don't even know the real history of NASA, how it was started by the occult, and it's like Satan worship.

Josh:

Yeah, dude, I swear to God. There again we've talked about it before where everything is demonized. I think people are just bored. You're just fucking bored. Even if it wasn't a cult, what the fuck would? What has that done? What I mean? What, what's? Let's demonize nasa, it kind of works.

Zach:

He's like we're literally talking about it on another podcast. There's a thousands podcasts out there all talking about candace owens saying that space was fake and gay. But they'll listen to us, right, right because there's and even you know we're extremely credible.

Josh:

There's nothing.

Zach:

There's nothing entertaining about, about saying the obvious thing.

Josh:

I guess that makes sense and she's dude. She's just becoming victim. I don't know. I'm like dude, come on man.

Zach:

Well, the running theory I'm going to conspiracy theorize about Candace Owens. The running theory is that it's her husband, so she apparently got married to this dude. He's white and British. Yeah, within like two weeks of meeting him.

Josh:

I got married really fast too.

Zach:

Not two weeks no no you know, and she that was the switch is where she was fairly normal, okay, and then she went off. The fucking same guy. She has kids with her. Yeah, yeah, okay.

Josh:

She went off. The fucking Same guy she has kids with, though, right, yeah, yeah, okay.

Zach:

And he's kind of. Apparently he's the one that has all these opinions about Jews and space and all this kind of stuff. Can we just leave people alone? But I always thought she was kind of grifty. I always thought she was looking for an audience wherever she could get it. She used to be a liberal, she used to be like an activist, I remember that and then she switched and she had the whole Blexit movement where she was trying to get black people away from the Democrats, and she was with Turning Point USA, with Charlie Kirk, who's really good, and then he's like a normal you know he's not.

Josh:

I know Kirk, yeah, he's not off the rails.

Zach:

He's a little weird. He's kind of got some. They're all weird. Yeah, he's a little homeschool vibes you know what.

Zach:

I'm saying, yeah, church youth pastor vibes or whatever going on, but otherwise he's fine. And then she went to Daily Wire and then, of course, she started saying some shit about the Jews. And then now she's independent, and now she has no leash whatsoever. You know what I mean. So I always felt like she was searching for an audience to just be as crazy as possible. She likes to stir the pot, I think is what her deal is, and so I don't like that. I like people that think things out and have a rational kind of analysis of anything. That's just how I roll.

Josh:

I got told I look like a youth pastor.

Zach:

You ever told me that Like a hip youth pastor.

Josh:

Crump told me he said let's get ripped for Jesus, yeah.

Zach:

No, you look like you're in a Christian rock band.

Josh:

Probably you know what I mean, right? Probably I don't know we are nailed on the cross.

Zach:

Yeah, welcome to yeah.

Josh:

I don't know.

Zach:

I'm lead singer of Crown of Thorns.

Josh:

Yeah, here's to 35, actually in less than a week. Oh fuck, less than a week, I forgot.

Zach:

Yeah, Saturday, I oh fuck Last week.

Josh:

I forgot. Yeah, saturday, I have to get you something. I have to work. I'll get you a card, I go on call and I have to work on my 35th.

Zach:

That's shitty.

Josh:

Very bitter about it. That's shitty, whatever.

Zach:

Yeah, are you having your uh uh cause you, you've made this prediction You're having your midlife, midlife, no.

Josh:

Well, you and I talked about it. No, I don't think I'm going to have one. I've been getting help. I'm not embarrassed by it, I've been in therapy.

Zach:

It's been going really well. Yeah, I'm definitely not going to make light of that, but I probably should do some you can.

Josh:

I'm actually not ashamed or embarrassed of it at all. No, that's good. You've got to trust in it. It takes work. It's not like show up and it's like tell me what to do, Like it's a, it's a two way street, like you gotta. You gotta do the things that are given to you, and then you also have to be, like, open. Yeah. I mean, they can dig, they'll dig, but like it's better if you can just bring it all out.

Zach:

Oh yeah You're. You're seeking help for something that's a problem that you're having in your life, and I should do the same thing. Right, Yours is different than mine, yeah everybody's is different.

Josh:

Mine's a little more.

Zach:

I don't know. I think my main problem that I probably need to seek therapy about is that I haven't had a girlfriend since 2012.

Josh:

Yeah, but you could ask, I guess I mean they'll dig it out. I mean it's you know, I'm not going to do it.

Josh:

No, not 2012, way before that. But I will tell you this for me, like it will, I've changed my opinion about a lot of stuff over the last few months. Like my outlook on stuff has changed a lot. And I was telling Kyle, I was like you feel like after I had my issues or whatever, like I felt like a, a different version of myself that I won't go back to. Yeah, like you almost feel like you break and then you build from it, but you become like a different, a whole different whole different outlook.

Josh:

You know too much, you can't well on on mental health and, like you know, I I used to make fun of the idea of all this. Like I don't, I don't need anything, fuck this, I'm not a pussy. Like I don't need any of this. Like keep it all suppressed and keep it in a box and then just keep it all to yourself, don't tell anybody, and then, yeah, eventually it just implodes I think mine's uh, and dudes are.

Josh:

We're really bad at like sharing, especially with one another, another Like we'll bust each other's balls, like I'm there if you need me, like. Obviously that's true, but there's never a time when you get the guys together Like you've. You know, you've seen these goofy Instagram reels where guys are like screaming at each other and they're wrestling and crying and shit, which there might be some truth to some of that. I don't want to do it and pay for. Now, if it was my group of you and my tight friends and get together and hey, is there anything I'd rather you tell me, because there's been suicides and other stuff and sometimes you wonder, I wonder if somebody would have called that dude and just checked on him, or if he had a way. Maybe I'm just generalizing here. I don't know how true that is, but for me, therapy helps a lot.

Zach:

Yeah, let's see if you have like something how to describe this. I guess the reason why I've never really considered therapy before is, but I don't necessarily dismiss it. Although I do think people are over-therapized and they do it too much. You can like, especially women. They you know it's. They almost see it like as a badge of of honor to like be in therapy.

Josh:

It's hard so it's sometimes like because people ask like like I just said out loud on this, but like it's not a genuinely it's not a flex. It's not like getting a new tattoo or getting a new car or whatever. It's not. It's like a I don't want to be embarrassed by it. It's not like obviously I keep some of it private, I'm not going to go into all that stuff.

Josh:

If you treat it like any other medical thing, it's just like I had therapy and it's like, oh, but no one's like, well, what is it about? What's wrong Like it's? You know, I'm. Yeah, but like, do you want to know about my cavities too? Yeah, exactly right, like. Or you know how went a certain path to get it and all that stuff. But it's, you know, it's super nice, but the reason I that whole thing got brought up is cause you talked about my 35th Like.

Zach:

No, I actually have no issue turning 35 whatsoever, okay, um well, I guess I was saying like the reason I, I haven't really considered therapy, but I don't knock it necessarily. It's cause plenty, it's everybody they're. They're not sharp, yeah, you know, I mean, they're not like uh, like I'm not like depressed, I don't have like anger issues, you know. I don't have like body dysmorphia, I don't have like you know, everything's just kind of like, just like my general mood, just even kind of even, just even kill man and so even my like problems are

Josh:

fairly neutral, like I'm just neutral yeah, so you're like a beach bum, but not not like a bum.

Zach:

Yeah, right, I have a paycheck. Yeah, it was an even kill.

Josh:

Yeah, and for me it was an un, because you can tell your loved ones, your spouse or whatever partner, whatever you want to call it Most people have good intentions to try to help you, but they try to Sidebar. I hate when straight couples call each other partner yeah, we had friends that did that and I was like gay. You mean wife, you mean what?

Zach:

you met your husband? Yeah, it's not your partner.

Josh:

It's gay what are you guys in business together? Yeah, it's weird, um, I don't know, whatever. Uh, most people try to like fix it. They want to fix, they want to help you, but they want to fix it. They want to tell you like, well, this is what you should be doing, and it's like look, I look, I hear you, you need to eat more protein, and most of us people that do it. I know what to do. I just choose not to do them.

Zach:

Same, but if I tell an unbiased professional.

Josh:

they tell me, and I'm like, oh yeah, I don't know, there's something about an unbiased opinion. A professional that has heard it all and seen and heard some shit that can take what you're saying and not try to fix it but pluck out pieces and be like check this out and they take it out, and then what they pull out like, imagine they pull out like a potato chip and they're like, yeah well, I see this chip here and they open it and then show you all the ingredients.

Zach:

It's like here's where, and you're like oh, or it's like you got like an engine knock and one of your buddies is like oh, you got like a. You got like an engine knock and you like one of your buddies like oh look, that's gotta be the manifold. I think you need to take the whole.

Josh:

Thing off.

Zach:

You're like huh, I'm gonna take this to a mechanic. The mechanic's like, oh yeah, it's this sensor.

Josh:

They only put on these, like 2007 models and that's what you got. So, like you just play sensor, it's fine, it's yeah, so that if anyone, if you ever get a chance or curious if anyone listening or it's, if you're um thinking about it or whatever, I think you might need it like it's. It's pretty helpful, it's cool.

Zach:

I've been enjoying it I'm glad you're doing that thanks, man that's good, but yeah, there's the 35, then we can get into it if you uh, you know, if you show up, you know dressed as a woman, tuck your wiener bag, then I'll be like hold up, you've gone. You'll be the first, you've gone too far. Or?

Josh:

I'll be like does this dress make me look fat? Right now, all right yeah but it's only if I looked hot yeah, if you looked hot, then I'll be like all right I'll allow it it's only if you're hot, it's okay.

Zach:

Yeah, if you. If you get titties, I gotta see them. Well, of course, that'd be the first person I'd show like I gotta show zach these exactly yeah I'll fill them too, so yep no homo. Well, I guess you'd have to. Yeah, I mean can't, yeah, of course, many of our dude friends get tits.

Josh:

I did have a. We got to see I don't know if I ever.

Zach:

I think I've told you this before. I don't know if I've ever told on the pod, but I had a roommate that his girlfriend got fake titties.

Josh:

I've never touched fake tits, and me neither. I'm proud of them.

Zach:

They just got done, so they hadn't got settled yet, Okay. But she was just like in the. I had the master bedroom so I had my own bathroom and then the other two roommates they shared a bathroom, Okay, and so she was in there, like you know whatever, marveling at herself.

Josh:

Sure Good for her Tits are cool yeah.

Zach:

And so they were both in the bathroom. I was like, what are y'all doing in there? And he's like my buddy, he was like a roommate and he was like he's like come here and check this out. And I was like, all right. So he opened the door and fucking titties and I was like, thank you this is awesome.

Josh:

Yeah, they look great. Yeah. And then of How'd they feel? What are friends for? How'd they?

Zach:

feel.

Josh:

I've never touched real tits. I prefer real. I've never touched fake tits.

Zach:

It was like I don't know, it was very, it was fine, Like you know their tits were tits.

Josh:

They were probably still like they hadn't swollen.

Zach:

Yeah, they were swollen so they were a lot, you know, stiffer yeah.

Josh:

I mean fake, if you get them done, not out, I mean, well, that's not true. I've seen my movies, so but like I've I mean I've seen some really beautiful work and I'm sure they feel great I've just I've never felt fake tits uh, actually I mean real tits are great too all tits are cool.

Zach:

Yes, let's just go ahead, and I don't discriminate all tits are cool. Uh, well, to a point, there's some I probably would not fuck with, but you don't think so is it, but what if they can't help it?

Josh:

I, I mean it's not. You know what I mean. Is that what you're saying?

Zach:

Well, I mean, I'm talking about old lady titties, that's what I'm talking about. I got you. I ain't messing with that. I got you Maybe when I'm 80 and I got just a saggy balls.

Zach:

I don't think you'd like them then, either, probably not I don't think the titty preference is baked in already. That's not changing I think that got locked in when I was like 12, and it has not changed. Tits are cool, man. You know what I mean. Fuck, I don't even know where we're going with that. Tits Tits are cool, right, but yeah, that was the first time I felt fake titties. I just shared something.

Josh:

Not even my girlfriend On our Instagram or on the podcast about tits. Oh yeah, oh yeah. I try to share a good, well-versed group of stuff. It's just fun. Yeah, right here. 80s horror movies, Shitty storyline, bad acting, horrible screenplay, Boobies Fix it with boobies Hell yeah, absolutely.

Zach:

And play boobies, fix it with boobies. Hell yeah, absolutely. Tits, seriously, why is there so much? I mean, I guess I don't really know the answer, but I've heard, ask me, I'll tell you this before. Why is is there so much sex in horror movies?

Josh:

most of it is because the scenarios are all teenage and or early like into high school like that's a choice by the director to have a bunch of teenagers in a horror flick.

Zach:

So what is? I know there's got to be. There's got to be some sort of artistic like it could be, because that's your most.

Josh:

I'm gonna, I'm gonna sound weird here, but I'm just gonna say I think it's because it's your most, one of the most vulnerable moments. So it's scary in itself that you're entwined and what's going on, and then, like that, like they did one of the an alien covenant, like locked in, and then you put yourself in that perspective. You're like you know he's with this hot chick or she's with this dude or whatever, and then it's like you think you're alone, you're in the moment, you're enthralled, and then, by the way, I will say the first time that I was about to put it in.

Zach:

There is a little hint of horror going on in my head. You know what I mean. Like you know what, when you lost your virginity, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, fuck you know there's, it's a little horrific.

Josh:

It is terrifying If we're going to get down that. I have my own story on that. Yeah, it's terrifying, yeah, and exciting at the same time.

Zach:

But there is this yeah, yeah, right, but if you're talking about that kind of terrifying yes, that is scary too.

Josh:

Well, I did hear that there was apparently the movie Carrie is about a woman getting her period.

Zach:

I don't think that's true. I think that is true. I don't think that's true. I think it was a book.

Josh:

I don't know if it was a movie. Carrie is a book, but like it's not.

Zach:

I think the book. I think the author even said it's about the book. I think the author even said it's about Her getting her period and developing telekinesis. It's about the feminine experience. I'll have to research this.

Josh:

Like it's a satire or a metaphor for getting her period and the emotional hormones? Yeah, but they tortured that poor girl and then she snapped on everybody.

Zach:

Well, yeah, but I'm just saying that's what it's about.

Josh:

It's a reflection of becoming a woman when she gets her period and then the PMS, and then she kills everybody.

Zach:

Of course, it's that experience that all women have taken to the extreme satirize it turn it into a horror movie.

Josh:

You really threw me off with the whole Virginia's.

Zach:

Boob.

Josh:

You threw me off with that.

Zach:

Well, Virginia threw me off.

Josh:

Well you know what I'm saying. You get a little bit hilarious, you do.

Zach:

Yeah, you get it's like, it's like what you do right before you're about to. You're like, this is like this is it.

Josh:

This is the moment. This is better than my hand A hundred percent. This is the moment, oh so you have this little, you have this little. We could do a whole episode on that shit. That story is wild for my side, but yeah, it's scary.

Zach:

It's the moment. It is the moment and I was like Porky Pig in it, just t-shirt.

Josh:

You didn't have time to make this look sexy. In your mind you're like for me too. All my friends had already checked in. I was the last one in the posse and yeah, dude, you're just I don't, I don't know like all all you've seen is videos and heard things and seen movies. You're like I have no idea how this is gonna go, and it's not pretty at first and you, you emerge a different being and you know that's the first time for me that you know well for everybody.

Josh:

All the dudes, like that's the first time you've been that close to one with your stuff, yeah, and you're like it's like like trying to land like an apollo, like I don't I don't know, I don't exactly.

Zach:

Yeah, it's, yeah, you're doing it just by sight. Just feel, just feel you don't have any instruments, all of your fucking computers I don't see good shut down and you're just like I'm, I'm bringing it, I'm bringing it in all it's really like all power to front shields.

Josh:

Yeah right, yeah, that's it exactly that it's likeaced for impact and you can't have too much power to thrusters. No, you can't. Oh fuck, I ran out of fuel quick. Yeah, I was on all reserve. Yeah dude, oh fuck.

Zach:

A crash landed on our titties that happens so fast, I don't you know.

Josh:

It's like one of them things you see on the movies where it's like I hope that was as good as it was. For me. It's like it wasn't. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, I kind of forgot it was. I thought it was just me.

Josh:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to be like I forgot you were here, yeah, dude.

Josh:

Oh fuck, we're beautiful trying.

Zach:

I ejected out of my escape pod right before the explosion.

Josh:

I even went back to orbit and tried to come again try to come back in, and it's the same thing All reserves.

Zach:

Yeah.

Josh:

I had two bottles and that's it. It was done.

Zach:

Yeah, that's it.

Josh:

Yeah, it's a weird time too, man, and then you kind of walk differently afterwards, like you kind of you kind of? Yeah there's always a like tribes and stuff. You see, where a young man becomes a man, yeah, like he's amongst the tribe. Well, it's kind of like us, like it's a very tribal thing, where it's like he's one of us, like you're greeted by your boys, like with you know all right, man like, and you don't have to say anything.

Zach:

They know it's like you have a different aura.

Josh:

They sense it and what's nice is like they don't ask any real details. Just like I was, you're wasn't you're like they all know it was awesome. Yeah exactly, even without any other context, and they all were just like, yeah and it's just, but then what's nice?

Zach:

they just want to know what you did wrong. Yeah, they did the same wrong thing.

Josh:

What's nice is it's kind of just like that's it All. Right, your favorite ice cream flavor for the first time You're just like where can I get more?

Zach:

I know I'm thinking about it. I'm trying to remember who I. I know I probably the first person I told was my buddy back in in high school. I called Garrett he. He, he had already had sex like a whole bunch in Africa before he moved and so he was like different stuff, like he was, it was fine, um, sounds cool. Yeah. When I so, when I finally did it like I think I told him and uh, I don't remember his reaction necessarily, he's like kenyan, he's like african, so he, you know, maybe there was like a well, they don't really, maybe they don't really like, yeah, have it, it's a cultural thing yeah, maybe they don't really talk about it, it's probably more, probably a lot better to be that way, but maybe I don't know.

Zach:

But it wasn't, he wasn't.

Josh:

We didn't like sync up and like bro, how old were you, uh, I was 18, 17, I was an adult yeah, I, uh, I remember I wasn't a child, remember she left and then, of course, you're like she was like she was 17.

Zach:

I was about to say she was a child. No, she was 17.

Josh:

But I was 18 we'll edit that out but, no like I, uh, I remember, like you know she left and it's like you kind of, you kind of like, or just sitting, like you know it's. For me it was like I didn't. You're always like I'm waiting for marriage, like that was your whole, you know. I mean, you're raised right whatever, and then you don't, and then you're like, oh fuck, and then I end up like getting in the car as soon. Remember calling Garrett specifically right away.

Zach:

Like dude, it happened.

Josh:

It's like oh shit, this whole thing. But I remember that day or the next day I was walking up the stairs in my parents' home and I remember my mom looking at me like and I'm like what? And she was like you slept with that girl, didn't you?

Josh:

And I'm like no, mom, Like I'm not doing it. What does that mean? I?

Josh:

mean, I didn't even say anything. It wasn't like there was evidence, like nothing, like I was busted. You bleached the area Apparently. It was like, like you said, there's something yeah, you know, moms are smart Like I was trying to stand taller, I don't know.

Zach:

My mom said that it's not like I had a stripe in my hair. My mom told me that she noticed it on her before me. Oh, really, well, she saw her and she could tell. She was limping. Like she'd been riding horses all day.

Josh:

She had a limp when she walked. She had bike marks on her neck.

Zach:

That was my best performance. It's been all downhill, since she had bike marks on her neck. Yeah, that was my best performance.

Josh:

It's been all downhill since she had a bike mark on her shoulder like you had to pin her down Right.

Zach:

Then the back of her neck like a cat. Don't chickens do that shit too, you pounced on her. Actually like baboons. I got my back legs up on her thighs and then you just parked.

Josh:

I like how they do that. They like behind their back. To keep it straight Dudes are man? Like they're wearing a weight belt. Yeah, like to let all the other guys know before they all just like clapping.

Zach:

Yeah, like just the boys and he could have too, because he was hands free.

Josh:

He was hands free. Yeah, and it's aggressive, it's not cute, but yeah she said that she noticed it on her first. Well, let me, let me ask you this what was your? What's something good you watched this week before we?

Zach:

get into, don't get me wrong.

Josh:

We can talk about Dick and all this stuff, but I figure we'll try to. I like having that in here, but let's get into the meat of the area.

Zach:

Yeah, so a thing we've been doing every episode is just things we watched this week. Yeah, we kind of detail something we liked and something we didn't like Mine a little bit more, I don't know. You end up watching just random stuff, so sometimes you hit some duds.

Josh:

I've actually had some fans and followers of the show that have been sending me stuff to watch, okay. So I have four that I have to watch this week or within next that they've recommended.

Zach:

So that's pretty. It's been started with what you watched this week. Oh yeah, um so I've been.

Josh:

Everybody knows that you've been listening to the show. The last couple of episodes I've been on this oldies kick a film. So I've also been really big on documentaries and I've been I just started diving into the film world. You've gone to a place I cannot follow.

Josh:

So I looked up like greatest 100 movies of all time, whether it be how they've been rated, how much money they made. But there's some old movies from the 30s and 40s that are like always on the tip. This is what we were talking about on the tip. Casablanca is one of the big famous movies.

Josh:

I'd never seen it. Everybody knows the lines from it. You've heard it, even in. I mean uh, this is a beautiful friendship, like you've heard. Uh, here's the cnu kid, like the whole thing, that's humphrey bogart, which I didn't know it, but he's in the top 50 greatest actors of all time, especially for that era. But, um, so I started it. It's, it's different. I don't think you would hate it. It's black and white doesn't mean I like it. I don't think I. It was hesitant and I love all movies, but I was like okay, let me, let me settle in. It's a, it's a. It's.

Josh:

You know, wizard of oz is the same era, it's that same time as well, but it's when's it cool and different? And fantasy? This is more like a serious, like it's a love story. There's war going on, and then you know, of course, the simple. The story is simple, it's not complex, it's really easy to follow. But you have to I think we're so used to now and nowadays you have to have this real complex, thick story to like keep you entertained.

Josh:

This isn't like that. It's not a fast pacing, it's not. There's not superheroes, there's not big shootouts, there's not. You know, there's music, there's this love triangle, if you will. And then there's this undertone story of the war of germany doing their whole conquest, and then you've got your two leads but like it's, even the acting is so much different. You're not, you're they're having to not overact, but but act like really act. It's not this whole thing where now it's like well, she's pretty hot, but she's kind of a shitty actor, but I like seeing her on screen. None of these people are like they're good-looking people but some of them are not stunning, but they act. I don't know it's so different. It's almost like a fine wine. When you watch it, you're like in the pinnacle of films. Especially for that time it was like one of the greatest ever and I've never seen anything with Humphrey Bogart in it. He's a cool fucking dude and everybody makes smoking look awesome. Yeah, that's.

Zach:

I would say that is one thing they smoke, they smoke, everyone smokes, everyone's crazy.

Josh:

They never finished their cigarettes and and I don't know if that's something that's in the movie, because they're probably having to smoke so much or they all really did but like they'll like light one, and it's never in a, it's never in a carton or in a box it's now they have their herbal cigarettes, they pull they pull a case like a silver case out of their suit pocket yeah hold on open it and they'll light it, but they want to finish it like acting.

Josh:

They'll go in one room yeah, put it out, go in the other room, light another one like now, like it's they. It's always lighting a cigarette, but the way they do it and they even blow these other faces like he'll light one and these two will have a kissing scene. You're just like this motherfucker is cold as ice. It's so cool. But even towards the end of the movie I was just like I was rooting for the lead, like I was invested. Towards the end I'm like this is fucking rad. I would highly recommend watching it. Just give it a try.

Zach:

Okay, just try it. Which one did you like, which one was worse, or which one did you like better, casablanca or Gone with the Wind?

Josh:

okay, so gone with the wind is three hours and 47 minutes long. That's like it is watching lord of the rings extended cut. You are watching. I've seen all those. You are without. That's a.

Josh:

Those are easy for me yeah but my mom loved going with the wind and I'd never sat and watched it and victor fleming did, who did wizard of oz. Apparently three different directors worked on this film but he got the credit for it and the oscar. But apparently, like at its time, when you watch it now it's a little it's different because apparently it's caught a lot of flack as time's gone, because generationally, like there's there's racism in it. It's during it's right at the peak of the civil war. So you're down in the south and apparently from what one person said was that people didn't like the way the south was depicted in the film. It's a movie, for christ's sake so it's just but it's depicted as a beautiful place.

Josh:

And you know there's slaves but they're not mistreated in the movie um and it and they're like that's not how it actually was. But my, my personal opinion was like I wasn't there and neither are the people bitching, so I don't know if it was like that. I'm't there and neither are the people bitching, so I don't know if it was like that. I'm sure there's evil in the world, so I'm sure there was terrible things happening as well. But the movie depicts it as they just work the land for this one plantation. And you have your lead, who's Scarlett O'Hara, who's a stuck-up little shit, southern Belle, and she has sisters as well and her dad owns a plantation and they do the cotton and all things. They have her main housekeeper. That woman's a great actress, she does it great. And then the Civil War popped off.

Zach:

People have a problem with it because it's set on a plantation.

Josh:

That's correct. Well, it's just because I think it's not so much.

Zach:

Like plantations didn't exist. Well, there really were segregations going on during that time during the 30s and 40s where like oh, this is like a Okay, because you're saying the World.

Josh:

War I, it's during Civil War. Civil War, it's the Civil War. The movie is depicted as being the Civil War.

Zach:

So full on when you say plantation, actually still has, oh real working plantation in the film not obviously when it came out. It's set during that time.

Josh:

None of that really it's there. But for me, as a viewer watching it.

Zach:

I mean, if people have a problem with Gone with the Wind because of that reason, then they would have a problem with Django.

Josh:

They would Exactly right and it's a movie. But I prefer Casablanca. But they're very different. They're just different movies. First off, gone with the Wind is in color, it's Technicolor, same one they did with Wizard of oz, so it looks great, but it's, it's long and the whole. You know, if you're not like women, empowerment or whatever, that's kind of what it's about like she's. It's her starting out as this little brat trying to take on suitors because she's jealous, because this girl has this girl or this guy excuse me, this girl has this man. But it follows her like persevering and climbing not only the social ladder but then following the money, trying to make herself something to take care of her family, and then the union invades and it's this whole thing. So you kind of watch her go everywhere. But the acting is really good. It's a good movie. It's just fucking long and there is some parts you're just like. But they have intermissions in the movie, like act one, act two, act three, like it even gives you a quick thing.

Zach:

It gives you a black screen.

Josh:

Okay, it gives you a text almost like a prologue in a book.

Zach:

It gives you in between, almost like watching a play.

Josh:

You could pause. Yeah, that's actually probably the best way to put it. It's very play-like, Okay, but it's good. I can see why. I mean it's got. You know, there's not really any singing, it's not a musical or anything, and some of the scenes, even for the 30s, are shot really well, Like it looks good. I mean, of course it's grainy, it's an old movie, but it's not bad. I don't think you would make it through it. You're a completionist. You might. I think you would, but I would. I would. If you're any kind of movie buff, I know you are, I would which one which one should I watch Casablanca?

Zach:

Okay, yep, is it only because of length or because it is better?

Josh:

I think it's a better movie. I think it's um in adds to the theme. I don't think I'd want it in color for the for that particular film. Okay, I like it in black and white. I think it kind of helps set the tone because it's kind of a dreary movie.

Josh:

I mean it's, you know there's there's not really any super happy moments. I mean it's a you know, towards the end of course you know your rise of your main character and of course it's a happy ending, but the whole rest of it is kind of gloomy and dark. I mean it's set in the war, so I would definitely start with Casablanca. If I were you, that's what I would watch.

Zach:

It's on Max. I think I'm going to have to give it a go, just so I can.

Josh:

I had to just because they say it's like Seven the, it's like seven samurai. Yeah. They're saying it's one of the greatest films. See for some reason for some reason you say like seven samurai, it's also like in black and white and it is old movie Very like in my mind I'm like I think I would rather watch that because it's about a culture that I'm unaware of. Yep that's when it came out.

Zach:

But I'm going to have to watch this so I can have just to have my opinion. I'm still so. I'm still going to obviously my opinion, even if I like the movie and I watch it, my opinion is not going to change. Like I, still, I don't want to watch this shit.

Josh:

Yeah, it's just too old it is, and some of them are hard. Uh, amber sent me some, my neighbor, aaron, sent me some, so we're gonna, I'm gonna watch some of the movies they've recommended, because apparently he likes old movies.

Josh:

Yeah, I don't do old westerns, I can't. I've tried. Yeah, like I tried to watch mcclintock. It's a john wayne movie I tried to watch. I just they're. I. I know they're good. I'm not knocking that genre of film, I just for me. I like the newer ones. I can't do the like, I can't even do the old. What's his name?

Zach:

Eastwood.

Josh:

Yeah. I just I don't know.

Zach:

There have been a Western, there are a whole, I'm not big on the Westerns either, with a few exceptions, right, like I love Tombstone, yeah, right. So I mean there's a few country music songs I like.

Josh:

You know what I mean? Yeah, it's the same kind of thing. That's what I watch. Actually, I will say I didn't watch anything I didn't like this past week. Okay, I did not. I even tried to think of my way over here, like.

Zach:

Well, I, if I'm gay, Right, you're gay that's gay Because I see reading as like an intellectual exercise. But the only fiction books that I really read are the ones that are impactful. Yeah, I mean, I guess you could say Harry Potter was impactful to a certain degree, but I mean like Not the way you're describing it. I'm saying like culturally impact. It didn't impact my life. Where I'm like I need to make a change.

Zach:

It's we're talking about something that you know a a, a piece of fiction that transits itself and like everybody imitates and there's like movies about it and and people always twist it and alter it and put their own flair on it, but it's all. That is the foundational artwork. You know what I mean. So maybe if I go about watching Casablanca and Gone with the Wind and Seven Samurai or Citizen Kane Citizen Kane's on my list Maybe I need to watch those with that same idea behind it, well, I'm watching it. Not because I want to watch some old-ass fucking movie about people talking about here's, looking at you, nobody talks like that. I can't relate, it's just whatever. But if I watch it going about like, oh, this I'm going to watch, is there any point when you're watching it, where you're like. Oh, I can see how movies made after this many, many, many times have imitated this scene or this, so it's.

Josh:

You said it. You said it best when it's like it's because it's so foundational. It's a it's a historical piece in my mind, that it's a film, yeah, but yeah, there's been movies that have. I mean, even when you look at humphrey bogart's character rick, like I just once, you've seen it, you've seen that character.

Zach:

You've seen it. You've seen that character. You've seen that character, You've seen him?

Josh:

Okay, you've seen him and he's not this total badass. Like it's not, like he's ex-military or he's just like cunning and smart and the way he carries himself it reminds me of Peaky Blinders. Like he's just, he comes off as his hard ass and like I don't give a shit. Like just cool, slick back hair, new york. Like here's looking at you, kid, but it works for him.

Josh:

It sounds silly and hearing it, but in the film it works yeah it makes more sense if I just heard it without ever seeing the man be like nobody, I think like nobody talks, but for some reason for him it just, it just works.

Zach:

I've heard someone say that it just works, man, when you're talking about archetypes yeah it's an art. You know, uh, what you're describing is an archetype, um, which is a you know a character with certain modes and actions, yeah, that that to where you could kind of uh, stereotype that character and put them in a box like that's thepe. Like you got the hero archetype, you got the you know the prodigal son. He's kind of an anti-hero, the anti-hero is an archetype. That's kind of how he is in the movie.

Zach:

You know, the damsel in distress is an archetype. Yeah. So you have all these different archetypes and you know, okay, this is the first time that that archetype was put to film yeah, dude, but then it's not the first time that archetype necessarily has existed, like Shakespeare created, like the vast majority of the archetypes and like spelled them out in all of his plays that we see now right, and motifs and stories and plot lines and conflicts.

Zach:

Like Shakespeare was the man, Like he did them all right, but then also his everything that he wrote was also based off of the Bible, biblical stories. So like that Bible is actually the original kind of pen to paper. Creation of archetypes. Oh yeah, I mean that's even Old Testament right away, Because it's also just a reflection of what was happening in real life. You know what I?

Zach:

mean happening was real of. In real life, you know, I mean like the, everyone knows the uh, you know a person in their own life that they would attribute to being like kind of the anti-hero or the. You know the hero, the damsel in distress.

Josh:

Exactly right, I can see how it would be a widow if I was a young man or at that age, because in the, in the film I think, he's portrays a 37 year old. But I could see if I was a uh, a person living in that time and seeing that movie, I could see how that would rub off on me as far as celebrities do on us today.

Zach:

Yeah, yeah.

Josh:

I could see why Humphrey Bogart's character would be-.

Zach:

An inspiration.

Josh:

Yeah, like he's got this devilish kind of suits and slick, he just has a-. What's the word I'm looking for? Charisma. Yeah, yeah, that's charisma.

Zach:

He has a uh fuck, I can't think of the damn presence thank you presence.

Josh:

He has a presence about him when you see him on screen and he's not like this big muscular guy. It's not like the one, he's not six, five, it's not. It's not like what we see now that we like put up as as the big badass, it's just a you just have to watch it.

Josh:

He's just like this cool New York, like just a cool, and of course the black and white makes everybody look obviously a certain way, but even you know there's other leading characters in the movie as well that all work Casting is great, like, whoever casts these films does a great job. Now I've not seen them, obviously in other films as much, which I will start watching other Humphrey Bogart movies and other ones too but like he just has a, the whole everyone has their own presence when they like, when they walk into the room. It's, it's cool. Everybody, I don't know, it's just done really neat. I definitely. I would recommend that one over gone with the wind. Okay, that's just my two cents.

Josh:

I'm not an expert, but anything that I actually did not like. I mean, besides hannah montana, that harper fucking watches there you go.

Zach:

That can be yours, okay, I fucking hate hannah montana.

Josh:

What was that episode about? Uh, I don't know. They're all the same. Everyone knows who the fuck it is.

Zach:

She looks the same analyze that episode for me real quick yeah, I mean, I like miley cyrus. She's a crazy, crazy lady yeah but like it's, I don't know I think the only thing that I've liked her in is there was an episode of Black Mirror that she was in that I enjoyed.

Josh:

It was an episode of Two and a Half Men when she cut her hair short and she had a swimsuit top on. Yes, also that scene, but when she went through her twerking stage, I was not on board, and then now she's like I would have coffee with her.

Zach:

She's crazy. I think it's cool.

Josh:

We could share tattoo stories and drink coffee drink coffee, that's true.

Zach:

Uh, what about you hit me, come on what you got? So, uh, I got impatient and I ended up watching uh buying for like 30 bucks I could rent. I could have rent it, rented it for 25 or 26, but I was like how much you buy.

Josh:

How much does it cost to buy one? 30, it's fucking high, I know. And then what sucks is it streams. The following week you buy it. I've done that multiple pretty much, but I got impatient.

Zach:

I was like fuck it, 30 bucks a dollar chicken sandwich, yeah, 100, and I like, I was like I literally just door dash like 40 bucks anyway, so I was like what's 30? Um so uh. So anyway, I watched, I bought and watched. Uh, captain america, brave new world okay, what do you think?

Zach:

um, I I will say, if you know, just snap judgment right here, I would say it's not as bad as people were saying it was. It wasn't as bad as well. I wouldn't say it wasn't as bad as the box office said it was. You know the box office take wasn't as big for a Marvel movie. It wasn't a good opening.

Josh:

It wasn't one of the worst ones, right?

Zach:

I wouldn't say it was one of the worst Marvel movies, but it's bottom tier, it's on the lower tiers. Um, it's well, I don't know, I'd say it's mid-tier. I think it's like uh, I put it in the same category as like thor dark world okay, that's fair.

Josh:

Yeah, I was gonna ask you, like you know, did it feel like a filler film, if kind of okay?

Zach:

it kind of felt like a feeling, kind of just it's almost like I got a piece here that I don't have, where I can put this it didn't. It didn't move the ball forward as far as the mcu is concerned, to kind of pass it a little bit, yeah, with one exception is I.

Zach:

I think that the idea is that they were wanting to have this movie to, to have a, I guess, a reason to revitalize the avengers. Because, uh, thunderbolt ross basically says and tells Sam Wilson says that's what he wants him to do is revitalize the Avengers. Of course there's a whole drama about that he wasn't sure about. He's like I don't want to revitalize the Avengers under Thunderbolt Ross, who's now the president. Then he de facto is in control of the Avengers, even though it was SHIE though, um, it was shield and nick fury before. He doesn't trust thunderbolt ross, right?

Zach:

I got you yeah so he's like I don't know if I really want him to be the creator, you know, the one to revive the avengers, and it would kind of be under his purview. He didn't trust that, so but eventually he gets there and then he at the end of the movie, him and the new Falcon that he I saw that guy.

Josh:

He's like a little protege.

Zach:

He eventually ends up becoming the Falcon at the end of the movie.

Josh:

Is this all stepping stones for our big doomsday type thing? Pretty much, I think.

Zach:

what it is, is this movie was just basically, first of all, here's what it was. The purpose of the movie If you were to say, here's the reason why this movie exists in the broader MCU is to introduce adamantium. So what they're saying and also, by proxy, it also shows that there is a global conflict or global tensions and kind of like gold rush to possess what they call Celestial Island, which is the Tiamat that was emerging from the planet out of the Eternals.

Zach:

That's what we're going to do with this Exactly, and there's literally a fucking celestial being emerging halfway out of the fucking planet, in the Indian Ocean. That's got to be a problem. And then, yeah, it's just floating there. I guess it's sticking there because it's in the ground, and so there's a rush to claim it by Japan and India and. France, I think it was in there and in the US.

Josh:

I do like it when they expand. Yes, previous.

Zach:

Yes, yeah, they call back to something. It's like well, you've got to explain this at some point.

Josh:

It's still there.

Zach:

I need someone to make a comment about this being there, right, and so that's what bothered me about Marvel's is that they didn't ever since Eternals, like there's been movies since then that are in. It came after the Eternals that event Cause, that was your climax and you're like nobody's going to fucking address this. No one's even going to mention this, this being was coming out of the core of the earth.

Zach:

It's like the last thing that happened when everybody got snapped. Half the planet got snapped. This is another thing that's happened. This is a big fucking deal. Nobody talks about it. That's what bothered me about some of these movies. This one addresses it, but not really head on. Thunderbolt Ross becomes president During one of his campaigns speeches or when he's addressing a group or whatever. He's making a speech and he's talking about Thanos snapped away half the population and they all of a sudden come back. We had a celestial come out of the fucking earth. It was a celestial being on the horizon that just disappeared. He's actually saying these are huge threats that we're not prepared for and of course he's doing it for his campaigns Like we need to—.

Josh:

Yeah, but it's all relative to the MCU.

Zach:

I mean that's all a big deal, Right, and so I'm like thank you, Thank fucking God. And then all of a sudden, like I said, the other reason why entire body. But they start mining parts of him and deep in the core they end up finding adamantium. Right, so that's how they're going to introduce adamantium and they're saying that this is the, this is even more, has even more applications and is stronger than vibranium. Now that that that there's two parts of that now stronger than vibranium agreed, yeah, Adamantium is Now there's two parts to that Now stronger than vibranium, agreed, yeah, adamantium is stronger, but more applications was an interesting.

Zach:

The fact that they used that term, saying it has more applications than vibranium. I'm like, okay, I'd like to see that. Then the other thing they were saying is the reason why they were going after. This is also one of these miracle metals, right, If you can say that that wasn't controlled by a protectionist country like Wakanda, right, you had to go through Wakanda and they were very cagey about the vibranium that they gave out. Right, they were sitting on a gold mine of it and they weren't letting it out. Maybe trickle out Bucky's arm, Bucky's arm, bucky's arm.

Josh:

There's only one thing running around and then cap shield.

Zach:

Um, but adamantium is not controlled by any country and not an isolationist country, so it was like up for grabs. So like there's obviously country you know cultural, some tension, tensions there between countries to try to possess it, um, meanwhile you have that going on. Sam Wilson is trying to. He's full-on Captain America. Since the TV show that they had where he's known as Captain America, they call him Captain. He's fully Captain America.

Josh:

I got you.

Zach:

There's no mistaking it. But now that he's been fully in that role and this is what they kind of touched of, touched on the show is he's not sure if he's the guy for the job?

Zach:

and one of the things that he that keeps recurring throughout the movie is that he's like I should have taken the serum, like right. But bucky ends up telling him he says he says you know you weren't picked because you know, yeah, you may not be the strongest, whatever, but but that's not the reason why you're captain america, because you're the strongest, the fastest, whatever it's like, it's because of who you are Right, that's the reason why.

Josh:

So I can't tell you.

Zach:

Right, it's like it wasn't supposed to be me. And also here's interesting Bucky is actually running for Congress.

Josh:

Yes, I saw the clip from the Thunderbolts. Yes, where he?

Zach:

Yeah, the fuck, he's a congressman.

Josh:

I love that character In the movie he's running for Congress. I love that character.

Josh:

I think he ends up becoming Congress, yeah.

Zach:

Honestly, Anthony McAnee is not like A-list for me in the MCU.

Josh:

I don't think he's bad.

Zach:

I don't think he's bad, but this I don't know. Sebastian Stan first of all. I think Sebastian Stan is a better actor period.

Josh:

I'd agree with that.

Zach:

And that character is just cooler, he is.

Josh:

I mean his whole backstory is. I mean he's OG Avenger in my mind. I mean he was on the front line with Cab, and then, of course, his movie was one of the greatest ever in my opinion for the MCU.

Zach:

I'm actually excited about Thunderbolts because of Bucky.

Josh:

That character's arc. Everything has been perfect, in my opinion. Yes. I just think he's an awesome character.

Zach:

Yeah. So anyway, he's still questioning himself. He kind of comes to terms in the end and of course at the end he's also going to revitalize the Avengers and he's got his Falcon now, which is his protege. So it's really just them two right now. And the other thing that they another storyline that's going on is the I think they were trying to wrap up Thunderbolt Ross' arc and story. He was played by William Hurt in the first one of the early MCU movies with Ed Norton as Hulk, and of course the events of that movie is what actually estranged him from his daughter, betty Yep Right. And then, of course, he was involved in the Sokovia Accords and he locked up half the Avengers. He's an asshole, he's a dickhead. Right he is.

Zach:

Well, so early in the part of the movie is that he still has kind of some rage or whatever about him and and you know he has to kind of fight back against this perception that he's like this loose cannon, kind of unhinged, kind of you know, flies off the handle.

Josh:

But he is warm up Right.

Zach:

And so, yes, yeah, right. So he has to like fight that, that perception of him. He like shaves his mustache because they were like, if you don't shave the mustache, you're going to lose the election, basically. So he shaved it to win the election Stuff like that.

Zach:

So he ends up becoming president and I think you're unsure of his motives throughout the movie until you get to a certain point where you're like he really is trying to change, he's fighting his own demons and he's trying to be a better person for his daughter. Mostly he is because he, his daughter, doesn't have anything to do with him and you know that bothers him. So he's trying to be a better person so that she'll have something to do with him. That's the whole motivation, okay, behind that character. And also he's trying to do what's right to protect humanity, right, yeah, um, but he still struggles with that. And so what ends up happening is he also has a skeleton in his closet at the events at the end of the uh, mcu Hulk movie, incredible Hulk uh, mr Blue, that was in the in the movie.

Zach:

Yeah, he was, you know, in communication with Bruce Banner about the gamma radiation in the whole.

Josh:

he made the abomination yeah.

Zach:

And that making abomination? Yeah, he ended up making abomination. Emil made him do it. Well, during the events of the end of that movie, you know, some of Banner's blood spilled on his head and got cut in his head or whatever, and so he ends up becoming the leader right, and he ends up his brain gets super smart and well. Of course he gets arrested by Thunderbolt Ross and he ends up in captivity in this fucking black site Out in the rift.

Josh:

Is that what it's?

Zach:

called. It's called Echo Base or something like that.

Josh:

No, it's called the Raft. No, the Raft is where they no this is a different place.

Zach:

So this is even like off-site, like black site type stuff. So he was keeping them there and because he's super smart, thunder ross was actually utilizing him in order to uh make like weapons and defense systems and stuff like that to protect humanity. So he was exploiting his genius right, and also, to make it even worse, he was feeding him more like gamma radiation and banners to make him even smarter. So he like fucked him up even more so he looks gross. He's all like green and he's got like a milky eye and it's all yellow. The other one's yellow. It's gross, he's nasty. So and also that was my, I would say that's my one critique is that character looks so gross, like to make it's not good, like he don't look right. Okay.

Josh:

I've seen pictures.

Zach:

It kind of looks corny, it's a little campy A little. It looks almost like a fucking zombie, it looks undead, it looks weird, but he's a genius yeah, but he's a super genius. And he also does all these probability calculations. And he ends up doing all that in order to run these probability calculations To where he orchestrates this thing, to where he ends up breaking out of the black site, but also, in the meantime, his goal is he wants to destroy thunderbolt ross's reputation yeah right, his legacy and like make it to where he is seen as like the ultimate villain throughout all humanity.

Zach:

He's been shit and his thing is is that he develops these pills to in order to save thunderbolts ross's life, because he has like a heart attack. His heart was like dying, you know whatever his heart was failing. Uh, he, he develops the pills have basically been microdosing him with gamma radiation, essentially, and so that's how he ends up becoming the red hulk and so he ends up, or it's almost like, uh, civil war, where he orchestrated, where zemo orchestrated, like them fighting and dissolving the Avengers.

Josh:

It's the same kind of palpatine that he palpatine it a hundred percent.

Zach:

He orchestrated Thunderbolt Ross during a press conference in the Rose.

Josh:

Garden, he turns a red Hulk.

Zach:

I actually awesome, he looks awesome, not gonna lie.

Josh:

He burns stuff, it's heat.

Zach:

That's the best part of the movie and it's not even the climax. It's not even the climax, it's not even the end of the movie yeah, I've seen where they fought.

Zach:

It was cool. Uh, no, I'm sorry, that is the end of the movie. That is the. There's a the the fight scene in the Indian ocean, amongst the uh celestial Island which is just Tiamat, coming down on the ground. Japan and US are about to go to blows and he ends up flying in battles. It's actually a really cool fight scene. I've seen them. I saw them.

Josh:

I saw them. But Red Hulk fucking awesome I've seen them fight. Yeah, and he looks like the traditional Hulk that we like.

Zach:

Yes, 100%. It was back to the Rage. I like it. I missed that about Banner's Hulk it's going to be Smart Hulk. It's going to be smart Hulk. It's fine, it made sense, but it's just like I need. The whole point of that character is the conflict within.

Josh:

Edward Norton is still the best. I love that Hulk. I'm right there with you.

Zach:

But they did. It looks like fucking Harrison Ford.

Josh:

Yeah, he looked good.

Zach:

It looks really good and, yeah, really good fight scenes. He looked good. It looks really good, really good fight scenes. He's also kind of smart as far as his tactics when he fights. It's clear because he's a general, so he's studied tactics his entire career being a general, A wartime general Really good Things I didn't like about it and which is the same reason I didn't like the show is they touch on this whole like race thing.

Josh:

It's just like fucking tired it's a tired fucking thing.

Zach:

It's exhausting like no one cares about isaiah the, you know, supposedly the first captain america. Well, actually, when the first he was the second. But um, and then you know he. They put him in prison for 30, like that was a whole thing that they taught they spent way too much. Nobody gives a fuck. It was just. It was a silly, it's just. I didn't like it. Okay, unnecessary story.

Josh:

Would you give the film at a 10? Uh, I I'll give it a 7. That's pretty damn good. So audiences gave it a 70 on tomatoes. It was because I like the audience score. It was 71. Yeah, which I thought was because they really bombed the shit out of it. And then I was like I don't think this is going to be as bad as it is. It's not that, not as bad.

Zach:

You know if I was like a movie critic.

Josh:

Critics gave it low Movie critics shit on all the MCU movies. But it's what they're superhero movies I mean right for what it is.

Zach:

It's not that bad. Yeah, should I pay 30 bucks for it? No, no but, I was impatient for research as well and also for research, so that was something that I liked.

Josh:

I'm going to check it out. When it comes to streaming, I'm going to watch it. I'd like to get my opinion on it another thing I liked.

Zach:

I'll touch on just real quick because I'm not caught up with the latest season, but I started watching the Righteous Gemstones. Yeah, Danny McBride, Walton Goggins, John.

Josh:

Goodman, my mom's very, very highly of it.

Zach:

Adam Levine. It's insane.

Josh:

She says it's so fun.

Zach:

It's quick synopsis. It's about a church, a mega church, family Right and clearly these people are not good people Right. It's like a lot of those megachurches. They start off with good intentions and then they get greedy and they turn into like these enterprises yeah, to where it's just making money.

Josh:

They got private jets.

Zach:

They don't know their people, they have their own theme parks, they live on fucking compounds and mansions Like they're so far removed from like the purpose of the mission I need to watch it. And so Danny McBride like kudos for him. He finds these like really weird sections of society and makes a comedy out of them. You know what I mean Like the whole, apparently I can't, I don't, I don't, I don't know enough about baseball, but he's he's down there's a. There's a specific baseball player that he actually modeled that. Okay, Kenny powers after.

Josh:

Yeah.

Zach:

Right, and so he was like. So he modeled this character and he had Kenny powers in his mind and then he just made a show about this like retired baseball or you're a washed baseball player and it's really good. Uh, same thing here. He's like, of course. Like who hasn't seen these? Like televangelists, like mega churches? Yeah, with these, like you know, they're decked to the nines, they're, you know, wearing gold and these fancy suits. Like clearly there's a grift going on here.

Josh:

Like this is yeah, this is not what it's about prime material for a fucking comedy.

Zach:

It's great. Side note I've never seen more penis in my fucking life in this movie in this show. Every episode there's full frontal, like you only see tits one time, it's all dick and well, you see it a few times, but it's only when they go to this like one, like a satan club or whatever, and there's like naked women dancing around, whatever so you're like, oh, but it's all like flash and darkness, not really good, but you see, full-on like lighting, like spotlight, full-on cock all the time.

Zach:

All right in this fucking show. So if you like full frontal nudity.

Josh:

This show is for you, I'm telling you.

Zach:

It does not just gemstones and it yeah, right, exactly, and it does not lit up in at all yeah, my mom told me that she said the.

Josh:

She said the riffing back and forth and the banter is so good, but she said it's nuts well then, some of the scenes, like they're just, they're just fucking ridiculous.

Zach:

Like one of the characters uh is, uh, it's adam levine's character. He's kind of like a youth pastor type, you know, he's with the youths and, uh, he's got this like protege that used to be a satanist and he like pulled him from the darkness and now he's like obsessed with adam levine's character. Like he's also kind of slow and kind of dumb, so he's like a puppy dog. Well, he ends up backsliding in one of the episodes where he goes back to the satanists and he goes into this club, whatever and uh, they're talking about was like yeah, he's now a baby and he's like going, he's regressed back to his infant form or whatever, and these satanists are talking about it and he goes in the back room I swear to god, dude, it was one of the craziest things I've ever seen he's like in a vat of like milk, like this milky substance, and he's in a red spandex suit like head to toe.

Zach:

He's got like a gas mask on and he's got all these like tubes connected to all down his body on this red mask. Except his cock is out, just zipper and just wiener sticking out of this red spandex suit and he's just like. He's just like waiting this vat of milk.

Josh:

How hard did you laugh at that.

Zach:

I couldn't stop laughing. It was the weirdest thing.

Josh:

I've ever seen on a show. I'm starting that show tomorrow.

Zach:

It was so stupid, but that's what we want Simple and silly and fun Adam. Levine jumps in there and he's trying to save him. He pulls the gas mask off and he's like you came for me or whatever. And at the end of the scene before he's like I'm really fucking high still. It's just crazy.

Josh:

Yeah, dude, I'm going to have to watch it. I've heard good things. It's crazy.

Zach:

You can watch some good shit, oh yeah, so Righteous Gemstones, a fucking plus.

Josh:

I love it it's fantastic, I'm gonna start it.

Zach:

I've just cracked season 2, so there's 4 seasons going on right now. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna power through it, I'm gonna enjoy it, I'll keep everybody up to date thing I hated, and I'll say I hated because I had really high expectations and or season 2 first 15 minutes, which is getting my praise yeah, first 15 minutes was uh was really good, um, and it's been, it's been three episodes uh that they dropped, uh on this premiere of the show and uh up to the season, and I I'll be honest, it's boring as fuck.

Zach:

Like I think that they could have just cut out. There's a scene he does like a heist of this, like prototype TIE fighter, right, which is really cool.

Josh:

It's a cool scene. I've seen it with the Gatlin style laser cannons. Yes, really fucking cool scene.

Zach:

Well, he's supposed to go to this rendezvous point in some jungle planet. It looks like Y haven't, for, to be honest with you, um, because there's like pyramids and shit, um, so I think it's you having four, which was the, the rebel base in a new hope, right? So I think it's. I think that's the same place, maybe, maybe not, but he's. There's some other rebels, but they're like pre rebels. They're not really officially, you know, part of the rebellion, but it seemed to be some type of rebel. They ended up capturing him and then they do like a mutiny on each other and they like fight each other and there's that's like two episodes to where they're in the jungle and it's like two groups of dumb asses like trying to kill each other over trying to get off this fucking planet and they need the, the tie fighter that they can't fly because it's a prototype, and they need the, they need and or in order to fly it, and so they're like one group has, has the tie fighter and the other group has and or, and so there's an impasse and it's like two episodes of just stupid and I just I don't understand it. It's a pointless like. You didn't need to stretch this out like this. It sucks. That's one area.

Zach:

If you were to focus on Andor and what he's doing, there's another area where it's Bix and Andor's buddy I forgot his name. They're at the end of season two. They are on some planet that's nothing but wheat or whatever. It's like a wheat planet where they make wheat and they farm wheat and it's going through an imperial audit. So it got like radio silent, shut down so they could do this imperial audit on the place and they're illegal immigrants. Okay, it's Bix and this other guy. They're illegals and they make a very concerted effort in these two episodes two, three episodes in these two episodes two, three episodes to emphasize that the evil empire is doing this audit, very much like Doge, and they're also going to catch the illegals and they've been sending the illegals off. First of all, I don't think Star Wars has ever referenced at any point the documentation status, whether you mean documented or undocumented citizens or peoples in a fucking community on a planet.

Josh:

No, because it makes no sense. I've never heard it's either owned by the Empire.

Zach:

And also this is a planet that's on the Outer Rim, so it means it's not under anybody's control.

Zach:

So I guess the Empire is taking over, taking control of it, or maybe it's one of the it's in the outer rim, but maybe it's still in the empire's purview. But they have this very I don't know it's. It's like this egalitarian society where they, you know, they just make fucking wheat and just farm fucking wheat there's like three people per you know 100 square miles, yeah and they're worried about two people that are undoc quote, undocumented, like I mean.

Josh:

I mean look at, I mean talk to me. It was an outer rim planet and they still had slavery.

Zach:

Right, it's just, it was.

Josh:

But it wasn't.

Zach:

It was just very, it was a very odd thing. It was an odd thing to do, like I could see, maybe, if you wanted to, if there was like a whole storyline about, like you know, a planet got destroyed and there was a bunch of refugees from that planet on Coruscant or something like that. Okay maybe you can make a storyline about that, because that makes sense. But you're worried about undocumented immigrants on a planet where it's just three people in fields of weeds. It makes no sense, it's bad taste, it's fucking terrible.

Zach:

Also, in that scene there's an attempted rape, which is just shocking for Star Wars. You're just like wow, this got dark. It doesn't feel like Star Wars, it feels odd. You know what I'm saying. It's almost you know. It's in the same category as if they in a Star Wars film they reference pedophilia. It just it doesn't sit right Like you would in a if you wanted to make it as real as possible. Obviously that stuff goes on in the Star Wars universe.

Josh:

Sure, we've seen some sleazy places, that's just not something you show.

Zach:

It's just because Star Wars in essence is for kids. It's for kids.

Josh:

Well, I mean, even Lucas said it was for, it's for kids.

Zach:

You don't need to show an attempted rape scene. No For kids, because kids are watching this. It's poor taste by whoever's fucking greenlit this shit. It's in poor taste. So you have okay. So that scene is going on. Of course, andor ends up showing up and finally and he saves the day blah, blah, blah and then they go off and fuck off, which is still also a cool scene when he shows up with the fucking TIE fighter and starts smoking motherfuckers. That's actually kind of cool.

Josh:

So anytime he's in the TIE fighter it's cool, the clip's cool.

Josh:

The rest of the show sucks ass Because it's traditional Star Wars, correct, there's stormtroopers and there's a TIE fighter.

Zach:

Yeah, Otherwise, and or the entire three episodes is just chained up inside of a busted down ship, so he does nothing except fly that TIE fighter at the beginning of episode one and the end of episode three. Otherwise he does fuck all. And it's just I'm like, oh, so then you got that scene, you got the jungle scene with the stupid dumbass mutineers, and then you have the attempted rape and illegal immigrant in the fields of wheat. You got that going on and then got the, the third scene that's happening. And the third scene is a is with uh mon mothma. Right, she was in season one and she's, you know, eventually ends up becoming the leader of the rebellion and uh, so she's setting this whole the rebellion in motion. Last season she was uh working with uh stalin skarsgård's character, who's like an antiquer and and he's kind of like the shadow figure. That kind of is like pulling the strings.

Zach:

He's also a liaison with Saul Guerrera, played by Forrest Whitaker, and Mon Mothma is trying to covertly raise funds for the rebellion. Everybody knows where that's going, but she's trying to do it covertly. That was all season one. For that Season two she's on our home planet and she's in season one. She had to. In order to raise this money, she had to kind of make a deal with the devil and basically marry her son off with this very rich person, marry her daughter off to his son, and so season two kind of opens with that, with the wedding, and I'll be honest, there's three episodes where they go back to that scene, those scenes in this wedding, and I don't know what the fuck anybody's talking about, like I don't know where in the dialogue was pushing the plot forward because it didn't make any sense.

Zach:

There was a big disconnect, like Stellan Kargar's character like with another character, like has this surprise for Mon Mothma and he shows up and it's all kind of mysterious. I'm like, okay, what's that about? And it's just like a fucking statue from some ancient civilization. There's only like so many left in the world. Whatever.

Josh:

It's like okay maybe he's turning in for money I, maybe that's what. I don't know what it is here they have.

Zach:

There's like some tension between those, these characters, and, uh, there's something afoot. But I couldn't place what the fuck is going on because nobody's saying it's talking straight. They're talking like code and it's like they. I'm supposed to know what they're saying, but I missed something. It's like an inside joke I missed out on and I don't know what the fuck is going on. And there's also Mon Mothma. That's fucking mouthful, hard to say. Her younger sister is clearly a lesbian. There was a whole lesbian thing with her in season one. She's doing something, I don't know, that's lesbian-y, I don't fucking know. And none of it makes any sense. And then the wedding was weird. It had to be weird, it was arranged. There's like a dance scene that's like fucking with techno and Maude Mothman's dancing around like a fucking schoolgirl. It's just weird, it's shitty, it's stupid, it's terrible. It didn't really push the plot forward. The first three episodes outside of the first 15 minutes and the last 15 minutes are dog shit.

Josh:

Yeah, and I tried to watch season one this week because everybody gave high praise to season one of Andor. The character I know is from Rogue One. Excuse me, so I know the character but I can't get into it. I've tried now three times, three different times, and I cannot. It does not. There's no hook for me.

Zach:

It does not pull me in. What I would say is and I can see that because it is different Well, I mean, I've even went into it thinking, okay, this is just, this is and I've seen every Star Wars film ever made.

Josh:

I think it's Andor, I think it's just. I'm just I don't want to say bored, I'm just not interested at all. I don't care about the character, I don't care about what's going on, I just don't give a shit. We all know what happens to him. He dies in a great way. Rogue One is one of the best Star Wars movies ever. And then hearing this other stuff about season two, everybody knows Star Wars has been very bumpy in the last few years. It's been very bumpy, the road's been awful. So I'm just kind of like, if you give it a that's. The only reason I tried season one is because you said it was good. So I trust your opinion on it and so far I'm only a few episodes in. It's not awful. I don't think it's bad, right?

Zach:

I don't think it's a think for season one. I've told this to people before. I think you have to get past the first three episodes. Maybe that's what it is Once you get into the meat of the episode and there are longer seasons than normal. Yeah, it's 12 episodes. 12 episodes, which is longer. Normally these shows have been like eight episodes, sometimes six, which I was shocked when wow.

Zach:

So it's a longer series You've got to go into it with like it's building to something, so probably it's a slow burn. It's a slow burn. It builds into itself this one, though I think the season two, the way these first three episodes have gone is that they took out how successful Andor season one was and how, pretty much, with a few exceptions, most people liked it and they were like they fucking wokefied it and they just went fucking. When are we going to get past that? When are we going to stop this? It's not good so far, but I'm going to continue to watch it.

Zach:

It's not as bad. It's not that bad to where I won't stop watching because it also has 12 episodes, like it's going to have a shit ton of episodes. And the way I kind of see it is like, yes, the, the character and or, and even though that's the title of the show, you know what ends up happening to him. He dies on scarif right, yeah, in rogue one, um, but that's not, that's not to me. I'm watching it. That's not what it's about, because in rogue one you kind of, when you first introduce that character, it's kind of a piece of shit.

Josh:

Oh yeah, he's an asshole. He's kind of an asshole. There's some crooked stuff he kills.

Zach:

Right, he's a dark element of the Rebel Alliance, necessary but dark element. I think that Andor, if you wanted to look at it from a character perspective, is his lead up to that point. And then he has redemption in Rogue One, but I actually don't really watch it for that reason, necessarily for Andor's arc. Sorry, allergy, you're all right. I'm watching it because I like the idea of finding out how the rebellion came about. Like it's an origin story for me.

Zach:

It is yeah Of the rebellion about like it's an origin story for me it is yeah, of the rebellion that's the reason I was so disappointed with the.

Zach:

Mon mothma scenes is in with and with the. I cannot think of his name, the character's name, but, uh, kelton skarsgård, character. Um, they're the real, like godfathers and like architects of the rebellion, yeah, right, and or it's just an agent right of the rebellion, uh, one of the early agents, and he has his role to play. But these people, these power brokers, uh, you know, and mahmothma is a senator right in the, in the, the empire that, uh, she has the, the real one that cobbles together the, the resistance right and the rebellion.

Josh:

I want to see how that all plays out that's interesting because initially we it was already a stat, rebellions already established. Yeah, so yeah, of course, I'm, you know, I like knowing how it got started as well, because it's a, it's huge, it's a big, pivotal thing the empire, the rebellion like what what happened like how did this thing right?

Zach:

how did it get to this point where they had, you know, they had the uh, the monari. How did they get involved? They had a fleet of fucking X-Wings. How did they get Alderaan part of the rebellion you know what I mean and then getting blown up Because it really just started off as just a cadre of people. It wasn't full systems involved in it, it was just Mon Moth. They're slowly building a network in order to finally make the push to go full rebellion. Yeah, so right now it's not full systems. You don't have the Mon Calamari homeworld, you don't have Alderaan, you don't have Mon Moth's homeworld actively fighting against the Empire.

Josh:

It's just a small group.

Zach:

So yeah, it's going to be interesting.

Josh:

Okay, I may jump back on First three episodes absolute dog water. Yeah, because it's slow, man Like I just I don't know, I'm not super entertained by it at the moment. But when you're talking about Woke, when you mentioned that real quick, what did you think? Because this was movie news the last couple weeks what did you think about the first time seeing the female Silver Surfer on that trailer for Fantastic Four?

Josh:

So, Julia Gardner, that's correct. So she's playing Shalabal, so she's playing a known comic book character. This is not a made up. I thought this was made up.

Zach:

No, no, no, they're not. They're not making Noren Rad female.

Josh:

It's an actual comic character. She's the love interest of the male. Noren Rad.

Zach:

Now I will say that some people have said that have made that comment in defense of the Silver Surfer, of being female, and you know, I'm fine. I'm actually agnostic about it. I really don't give a fuck. I don't either at this point.

Zach:

But I do see both sides. It's like, well, yeah, if you're going to reboot, uh, fantastic, four into the mcu, they, you should do noren rad. But I also I can see where. Because he's, he's the, he's the 90 percent, 90 fucking nine percent of the time he is the silver surfer he's the one that only one percent of time. I think it's like six issues where it's it's her, it's her.

Josh:

Yeah, I mean even growing up the 90s. I mean silver surfer shows up, yeah the cartoon.

Zach:

it's always right, it's not this. Yeah, I mean even growing up the 90s, I mean Silver Surfer shows up in the cartoon. It's always the same guy, it's not this character.

Josh:

That's why I thought why wouldn't you go ahead and do that?

Zach:

Right. But I can see where they want to depart from the early 2000s.

Josh:

Rightfully so, probably because those films were not great, but it's all we have to go off of. So I'm agnostic about it if, if the movie is still good, we have we already know there's badass female superheroes, villains. I'm not, it's not, I just you know. Yes, as long as it's good with the story, because so far what I've seen I like. I'm excited.

Zach:

Yes, also, I can't get past the, the, the casting. I'm just gonna see the fucking hick from ozark. You ever see that show, julie Gardner?

Josh:

I've watched a little. Oh yeah, she's got that famous scene. She just did the Wolfman. Yeah, I haven't watched it yet. It's on Peacock.

Zach:

She's actually a really good actress, but that's all I can see. Yeah, she's a lunatic.

Josh:

But as far as the rest of the cast for that movie and then seeing Galactus for the first time on screen in a live action, I think that's going to be cool. It looks cool. It looks very cool. The whole vibe, whatever, that whole era, I think it looks cool.

Zach:

I'm glad Galactus is going to have a body and not just a fucking cloud.

Josh:

Yeah, I don't know what the fuck happened to that.

Zach:

That was so stupid.

Josh:

Yeah, no, I was curious what your opinion was on that. I kind of assumed before I asked you that you probably liked me.

Zach:

It's like here if you're the latest theory on uh, rdj, uh as doom.

Josh:

Yeah, so I leaked a picture on our well you know, on our podcast in his suit.

Zach:

So they're saying and I forgot the name of it but that's a specific variant of iron man yes, is that suit? Yes, it is, I read it what there's, what the speculation is, and even whenever it is in the. The evidence to that leads to this speculation is that when they did the reveal, there was actually a bunch of Dr Dooms oh, okay, right out and then he was one that walked out and he popped off the mask and it was right, they're trying to like throw you off.

Zach:

So right, that's what people thought it's like. Oh, it's just trying to throw you off and you didn't know. Actually, what they're saying is that they are ever since. I can't think of his name, but whoever played Kang the Conqueror right At the end of You're talking about Josh.

Josh:

Brolin no, no, no, oh, you're talking about Kang, you're talking about Jonathan Major. Jonathan Major, excuse me.

Zach:

Of course he had the sexual assault allegation and all this kind of stuff.

Josh:

So he ended up getting kicked out of the MCU Because that was supposed to be Kang Dynasty, right, not Doomsday.

Zach:

Kang Dynasty was going to be the next Avengers movie, right? And that also Secret Wars. Secret Wars is going to be the end of it. Council of Kangs well, there's apparently a Congress of Doom. Yes, I've heard about this. So what they're saying is that they're pivoting from Kang to Doom variants, okay, and RDJ is just going to be one of them. He's not actually going to be dr doom. I gotta be honest, that would be a really cool twist. Yes, he's not going to be the main doctor, like they're they.

Josh:

They showed the entire like cast I've seen it for dr doom right so they also gave away some of them.

Zach:

And someone made this comment for thunderbolts and said well, pretty much everybody that's in thunderbolts is going is also cast in doomsday, correct, except for Taskmasher, which means in Thunderbolts Taskmasher's probably going to die.

Josh:

Which I'm okay with, because I don't like that.

Zach:

And I also hate that they made Taskmasker a woman.

Josh:

That was fucking stupid.

Zach:

And a widow that was dumb Like an old widow. The whole thing's terrible. So the theory is that they're basically pivoting from Kang Dynasty to Congress of Doom. I think, it's Congress of Doom, maybe it's Council of.

Zach:

Kang and Congress of Doom, I think, or Committee of Doom. I'm sure it's not Committee. That sounds very blue-collar or white-collar, but that's what they're doing. Is that RDJ? They're still doing a trick. They've already put the entire cast of Doomsday in there. But you know MCU, they're going to have secrets. There's going to be characters that are going to pop up that were not on the cast list. You know what I'm saying. So here's my speculation the real Doctor Doom that we end up having to fight we haven't seen yet. I'd be okay with it that RDJ is just going to be a variant and maybe one of the primary quote variants that's going to be in the Congress of Doom.

Josh:

I think it's Congress.

Zach:

I'm trying to find this Congress. Maybe it's not Congress, it's going to drive me nuts. Maybe it was council. Parliament of Doom, parliament of there you go, parliament. Okay, it was UK, very, very British Parliament of Doom.

Josh:

And dimensional charge of maintaining peace across the multiverse. Yes, so it was Doom created the Parliament of Doom.

Zach:

Okay, Now what does that sound like? That sounds like RDJ doing whenever he did the Iron Legion.

Josh:

Yeah.

Zach:

Right that where he was trying to create this like council to police.

Josh:

So would you be okay with it if they did that? Would you be more okay with it if they're just complete? I would be 100 because I was not okay with them completely disconnecting tony stark as this one of the greatest endings of a character in my opinion. And then we're like, oh well, we're just going to grab him and put him in this one I think it's a sleight of hand that they're doing.

Josh:

Yeah, I hope so, and because I think what's happening and this is just my thought about it I think what's happening is they're trying to get back to endgame level. I think, they're wanting to grab one of those eggs out of that basket from when it was, I mean they were peak and try to get back to that. Like they're staring, they're trying to get back.

Zach:

I think that I think they're trying to, and they may. I think they're trying to draw people back in on the, the names that made the MCU famous. Uh, you know as big as it is, and if that's Robert Downey Jr, obviously also. You know Thor is going to be in doomsday. They're also coming. So is Scarlett Johansson.

Josh:

She is not coming back.

Zach:

She's not going to be in that one.

Josh:

She said she's dead.

Zach:

Right, she's toast toast, which also tells me that Gamora is also toast toast. I'm OK with it because they got killed by the Soul Stone. So I think if you were killed in the Soul Stone trade, you're not coming back, at least. I like that character.

Zach:

Now, gamora did the character Gamora did show back up in end game, yeah, but then since then I don't think so. So, um, and that's fine, with guardians 3 they kind of they kind of wrapped that up actually kind of okay, kind of decently I'm not fine with that that we might have another epic level film maybe, but I thought that was interesting.

Zach:

But the fact that the way they introduced RDJ, as Doom was amongst a bunch of other copies of Doom, I kind of like where you're at. And then we saw the leak where that suit looks like an Iron man variant suit.

Josh:

Even the glow. Well, I don't know how true, I found that picture online and was like and I saw it from the credible sources so I shared it to ours, but it did look legit and they had this whole and they just started filming.

Zach:

Yeah, they had this whole plan for Kang. So I mean, how hard would it for them to be to pivot if they had this whole plan for Kang with the Council of Kangs to just there was another Parliament of Doom.

Josh:

That's already very similar. Basically the same thing and genuine and Doom is a.

Zach:

You know he's a. He ends up becoming a god-level entity.

Josh:

From what I've heard, his comics are one of the best. His whole story arc is one of the best.

Zach:

He becomes one of the most powerful beings in all of the MCU, or Marvel Universe.

Josh:

I actually am excited when I heard that it was Doom over King.

Zach:

I agree.

Josh:

I didn't think Jonathan Majors was terrible, but I just kind of no.

Zach:

I was invested in the fact that it's a cool concept.

Josh:

I like the idea that there was a.

Zach:

It's also Reed Richards' son. Yeah. Which is an interesting thing, but to where he becomes a super genius and just a normal guy that ends up amassing power because he's super smart and he ends up fighting off all of his variants in order to stabilize. You know, like there was a different ones that had the, the, what was the? Um, the, the one that was in the loki, or what did he call himself? I forgot that king. He called himself a specific name.

Zach:

I can't remember I don't remember, but he was the one that was like keeping all the other kings at bay yeah, right, not the watcher.

Zach:

He was caught something anyways, yeah but then there was one particular king that was like the baddest of them all, yeah, and that was the jonathan majors. When we saw in um, um, quanta mania, yep right, that was trapped, and that's the reason why they trapped him. So there's a you know infinite number of other kings and they had the council of kings. At the end, one looked like a fucking egyptian and the other one was like this robot looking thing.

Zach:

It was like it was crazy looking, yeah, um, so I really like that, that idea of that it's neat, it's big world, it's big problem you know it's cool. Yes, so I kind of they. They've got to figure out this multiverse thing, yeah, and tie it up, because you can't keep, once you go to that, that where do you go? Tom Hiddleston's character's coming back yeah, 100%, loki will be back Again. I go back to the MCU on Disney+. That's the only one that was worth a fuck was.

Josh:

Loki. That was a great show and the ending, the last episode of that, was so cool. But he's such a good actor when he's literally holding the multiverse together.

Josh:

Did you see where there's a rumor and I shared it on our page too where and I think it's concept, but it would be fantastic, before we get to do it, to say somebody wanted to do a television show on Disney Plus to show Steve Rogers going back and putting the stones back. Yes, I saw that. I think that would be fantastic. If they fantastic, if they did like a did, give me quick, they could, they could do like well, they didn't have to do a stone episode.

Zach:

They could do like a. Uh well, they could do like a little. You know, straight to tv movie.

Josh:

You do a special like how cool would that be? Yeah, and they showed pictures. Somebody like edited in pictures of where he would be. But like how wild to see all that happen, like because he had to put them back. Yeah, and he did put them back and then fucked off with his wife and came back. Like that's huge. Like I don't think people realize what he went and did, because I had to research it myself. Like you just see him like snap out and then he comes back. But it's like dude, he lived a whole nother life, yeah, after putting all that back yeah, so like obviously there's some interactions that would be super interesting the red skull, the red skull, that whole thing.

Zach:

You imagine, because you imagine like, um, it was um, the only people that went to uh vormir were um thanos gomorrah, who died right, and hawkeye, hawkeye and uh natasha, they ended up dying too. So the only person that came back that's still living was Hawkeye. But do you think he knew that? He told Cap he was like oh, by the way, it's Red Skull. No, he probably just thought there was like he didn't know who Red Skull was. Necessarily he didn't know, especially the way he looked with the robe and everything like that that was.

Josh:

Red.

Zach:

Skull. So I'm saying it's like Steve. Imagine Steve shows up to Vormir to return the stone and he's like oh, fuck, I was wondering what happened to you, holy shit.

Josh:

Yeah, dude, I don't know. I think it'd be a great show.

Zach:

It'd be great. I would want to watch it just for that interaction alone.

Josh:

Just that, and then just watching him put all those At a specific time.

Zach:

Yep, and then other things, other interactions. That I think would be cool is if he went back and he talked to Howard Stark, because he went back to the 70s and 60s or whatever, to get the Space Stone. And the Tesseract was in that facility, so he would probably run to Howard Stark, which would be interesting. That would be an interesting little thing, I don't know how. He ends up talking to the. I'm spacing on her name.

Josh:

The Grand, the Grand.

Zach:

The Sorcerer Supreme before.

Josh:

Strange the ball-headed chick.

Zach:

Yeah, you know what I'm saying, because she also knows a bunch of shit, right?

Josh:

I don't know, dude, maybe they'll make it. I mean, we've got time before Doomsday. You could fill it in for fun.

Zach:

I could see that being very much like Kenobi, the Kenobi show Hopefully better, but it filled in a gap. It does Yep, it scratches an itch?

Josh:

Yeah, For sure. Just to answer some questions. It's filler. It'd be a great filler If you cast it right just make it happen. Yeah, do it right, do it right, do it right. Yeah, I agree. Oh, this is a Sinners movie we need to go see. Yeah, I know, dude, I've seen the clip and it does have a very cool Tarantino kind of vibe.

Zach:

That's what I've heard. It looks cool. I've heard the music with the story somehow ties together and it's really good.

Josh:

I've heard this, though, from comedians to movie critics, to other celebrities.

Zach:

They're all like. It's awesome I've I recently saw today is that somebody watched the Senators and was like Haley Steinfeld is the hottest woman on the planet in this movie, apparently.

Josh:

Yeah, so we've all seen the clip where she was telling Michael B Jordan that wild ass shit, I'm like oh. She said you're drooling. She's like do you want some? I'm like, fuck lady, I need to go see this movie. Of course, the other scene where she's out in the street and she tells him you know whatever, and tells him off. I can't repeat what she said. Just look it up, people. Yeah cause I'll butcher it.

Zach:

She says like an old timey word for pussy. She says it, but it's still sexy. Yeah, my coos my coos, you stuck your tongue in my coos and and gone with the wind they do not say the coos, there's not any sex and gone with the wind.

Josh:

Just assume that they're. It's a lot of horned up people, but like it's yeah, dude, I don't know that's, I do want to see it uh, yeah, we'll definitely.

Zach:

Uh, we need to have a bro date. We haven't actually gone and seen a movie in a while we just go see a bunch of shit yeah, even if it was good or not, we really need to make an effort, especially since we're doing a fucking well movie podcast, we do need to do that.

Josh:

Well, maybe that's one we'll see, but in my opinion, there hasn't been a lot of stuff that's really grabbed me. There just hasn't been like these. I do want to go see thunderbolts in theaters oh I do. I do want to see that one. I need to make a point, I don't know. We just kind of died off. It comes out May 5th. We used to go all the time Fuck. I remember back in like 2010, 2009,. We used to like do double features. Oh yeah, dude had a list of the month for the movies.

Zach:

Oh yeah, yeah, we had a schedule.

Josh:

We'll see the Thunderbolts, for sure. We're also going to, we're going to. We've got some ideas too about that for everybody.

Zach:

All right, Come up with, and we don't have to commit to it. But just if there's anything Me do one for May.

Josh:

Yeah, we need to see a month of May. All right, what do we need to watch? I can do it.

Zach:

I'll get something drawn up for May Even if we can't go at the same time, I'll go solo whenever I can, yeah.

Josh:

If we can't sync up, I think Thunderbolts is, for sure, one we need to see. Yeah, 100% Big time. And then Sinners I want to try to get. If I don't catch Sinners in theaters, we'll definitely discuss it when we stream it, yeah. Yeah, I've got some movies to check out this week, some old movies. I'll do that tour again. And there's not really. May looks good. There's Murderbots coming to Apple Plus, so I want to watch it. Yeah.

Zach:

I'll watch that. I'm getting Electric State vibes out of that one because of the. I think it's going to be better. I think it will be better, but I don't know.

Josh:

It looks a little goofy We've got as far as TV shows, I don't know what we've got. I'll double check.

Zach:

There wasn't anything that was my big kind of like thing. There's some stuff coming in May.

Josh:

I should have had a better idea of it. It's my fault and I'll have time to update my list of what's coming out in May.

Zach:

Yeah.

Josh:

Maybe I'll start bringing that to the end of the show.

Zach:

It's already come out.

Zach:

I need to catch myself up with it maids tale it did come out, uh, like a fucking four year. Hey, I got into that. Pretty good, that is some wild shit. Oh yeah, dude. So I definitely um, yeah, we last left it like, uh, um, like mortal enemies were like teaming up to go into gilead again, like I was that whole. And then, all of a sudden, the season didn't, just didn't come, just didn't come out. I was like this show get fucking canceled. And all of a sudden, now they're, they're wrapping that that that is a wild show.

Josh:

I remember when I said I mean season one, it just can't. It's that whole concept was just. I was resistant to watching that whole thing. I was too.

Zach:

I was too, and her she gets on my nerves a little bit outside, but she does a great job on that show and I did not like her in Mad Men, which I think, where she kind of got her start because she's just annoying and kind of mousy and fucking weird and whiny but she does a good job in this, but she's really good in this one playing June or Alfred is really good, and so I was resistant to watch it because the left took it over and was thinking that everybody was trying to. Everyone on the right was trying to make Gilead happen, or whatever everybody in these fucking handmade robes exhausting all that sounded. It's just so stupid so I thought it was going to be like super political and like super feminist bullshit when I was watching it, but it's really really not.

Zach:

No, they not until I would say not until way later season. There's maybe a couple scenes where I'm like, okay, give it a rest, but uh, but they don't bash you over the head with it and I appreciate that. Uh, if any. If there is some political, kind of, you know, feminist vibes that's going on in that show.

Zach:

It's subtle, it's, you know, but it makes sense to the story it's undertones, but it doesn't make sense to the story of what's happening and actually, truth be told, it's actually a pro-motherhood movie. Yeah, it's actually a pro-life movie.

Josh:

It really is Our show. Yeah, it's got that undertone for sure.

Zach:

You know what I mean, even the main character.

Josh:

There's only one character. I can't remember her name, but she has the eye missing eye, yeah I know you're talking about she's great, I can't.

Zach:

She's kind of crazy, yeah, so they they do a flashback of her and it was very pro-abortion kind of episode yep, I remember and so you know, that was the only time where it was like kind of beat you over the head a little bit, but it made sense to the plot, but it made sense for the character in this plot and it actually was fine. So you know, people on the right that you know boycott shit. Because you think it is one thing, just fucking watch it.

Josh:

If it's good. It's good, it's a good show like you know, there's someone.

Zach:

I listen to a podcast and he makes this kind of point. He's like. He's like I don't want to stop the the left from making movies and shows, but I want the right to do more of them and we need to have more of it all.

Josh:

Everybody needs to. Yeah, that's what film's about. Yeah.

Zach:

It's a reflection of storytelling Storytelling- Tell good fucking stories. I don't care if it's right, left, center, if you're blue, you're purple. Who gives a fuck? Exactly right, I'll respect watching the movies.

Josh:

I might be really missing out on some good things, like I'm not. I'm sorry, I'm not doing that. Yeah, did you see that they got a trailer for Wednesday season two? Did you watch Wednesday? Yeah, yeah, it was fun there's a show to try a quick teaser for it things obviously is the big thing coming. It was looming dude, right I've been patient, I know I've been fucking patient and I'm tired of waiting.

Zach:

It's october, november it's coming I know that that's uh, that's coming, that's looming to an end, but uh, yeah, I know finalizing it here, um, but yeah, I don't. I can't think of anything that's like big andrew was. For me was the kind of the big one, big show, yeah because 1923 just closed up, so that season's done we already had some of the other big ones like severance. Season two was huge for me.

Zach:

They said we're not gonna have to wait two or three years after, so we'll see right, we already had house of the dragon season two while back, so like uh, I don't know, might be in a little bit of a drought well, we're in that transition between spring and summer, so our summer hits are about to fire up in May.

Josh:

So we're about to get our big summer hit movies and then we'll get a few fall. But then Christmas time is usually when shit fires up too.

Zach:

In the meantime this is outside of live action, but we had solo leveling, yep solo leveling was good. End of season, two Season two. Finalizing was fucking awesome yeah.

Josh:

I told you it was good. I'm still on my Studio G movies. That B-Row fight Was fucking awesome. I finished my Some more Studio G movies.

Zach:

They're all kids movies. You know what? I'd rather watch those and catch up on those Than fucking Cosmic.

Josh:

Vodka. I've watched about 15 of them. I can let you know which ones I I give high praise If you haven't seen them.

Zach:

I'll probably watch in order that they came out.

Josh:

That's what I'm doing, I think that's what I'm going to do. One of them you'll hate. It's got the worst ratings. It's called Tales of Mercy. It's terrible Sounds terrible. It's awful Great voice cast Just terrible. It's the worst one I've seen out of all of them so far, and he's got some wild time. It's weird.

Zach:

This is going to be like a staple of the fucking podcast.

Josh:

I don't know why he only does it when we're in here.

Zach:

I don't know. I never see him do that. He doesn't do that in front of me. I don't catch him doing it. It's only when we're doing this fucking podcast that he sits in the doorway and starts looking on his wiener and humping his toys, so I didn't know if you wanted to do in person or over the phone. I mean over the phone, would probably just be easier to do.

Josh:

I mean, I was going to give them the choice.

Zach:

It don't matter, it's your space, it's whatever you want to do, we'll talk about it offline. Yeah, yeah.

Josh:

I don't know why I said that let's have the discussion now with everybody. Yeah, right.

Zach:

Bring you into our worry. If you're like, if I'm not your cup of tea, you just want to do a phone call, then that's fine too. I'll accept that.

Josh:

Yeah, but it's not okay don't fucking say that you can't bash the host.

Josh:

Yeah, no we're in, the cooler you can look. You just walk by you can look.

Zach:

Yeah, uh, the walk by, you can look, yeah, the teacher conversation. I'm going to have to do that with the phone just because I may antagonize.

Josh:

Oh yeah, she's excited about that one. Dude, she's excited about that one. The person might get a little testy, I think she said she's like I'm going to have to bring a PowerPoint.

Zach:

I was like, oh fuck, it needs to be a full episode. I said this before.

Josh:

My opinion on this is not really People misrepresent my opinion, Dude, it may be better in person to be, honest, maybe I may have to just watch and just let Delph fucking go after it, because I'm not going to have anything in that fucking opinion. I think it would probably be.

Zach:

Truthfully, who knows how it's going to go? But truthfully I think if it was a good faith conversation and we're having the same conversation, I'm not having one conversation and the other person's having another conversation. I'm just talking past each other. If it's not like that, then I think it would actually be very quick. Here's what I think it would probably come down to. It's like well, that's your opinion.

Josh:

It'd be like I agree to disagree.

Zach:

Well, that's your opinion. It'd be like I was like I agree to disagree. Well, that's like your opinion, man. Yeah, it was like whatever man.

Josh:

It's, yeah, it'll be quick, It'd be fun.

Zach:

I think it'd be fun. I don't think it'd be a long drawn out fight thing.

Josh:

No, no, no. I think it'll be fun, and only really the fun part. And then like bring, I think that'll be cool. Yeah, yeah, oh engage wants to come back on too.

Zach:

Okay, so it will work something out. Uh yeah, we need like a fucking Jamie to schedule all this shit. Actually, not even Joe didn't even have Jamie.

Josh:

I can do it. Schedule his own shit, I can do it? Um, yeah, we just need to let me you do all the other technical stuff. I can handle this Okie doke. That's all I got man. I think that's a good spot All right, well, send us off, yeah, so.

Josh:

You have 45 seconds before we hit two hours, If you can send me or send the Instagram, message me movies that you guys would like for us to watch. It can be, I don't care what it is, one of us will watch it. I have time to watch whatever y'all send. So send me whatever you want. It can be movies, television shows, whatever, I don't care what you're there from and then let me know and I'll spot them on the show and I don't have to tell you, like, who sent it to me, I'll just put you know a person, a guest, sent it to me.

Josh:

So, yeah, like, follow, subscribe, share. You can do three, five, seven or ten. Uh, the money will just go back into our show and have those prime numbers. Yeah, that's how they do. It's so weird how they do that, I don't know, uh. But yeah, uh, any comments on our stuff, the reels, uh, send me whatever you want. Message the instagram, I'm on it every day. Um, if there's something you'd like to see on the show, we're going to be doing some live stuff here soon, especially when we go see the movies. We're going to do, like, some specials that we've got in mind for that. So that'll be really fun. I'm pretty excited about that as well. So, but, yeah, appreciate it, peace.

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